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13-10-2023, 06:09 PM
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Yeah I have to agree with Sky.
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14-10-2023, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sky
The difference is in the perception of the individual.
Imo only....
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So the difference between what you said and what I said is in the perception of the individual? I sense objective differences, not subjective interpretations.
Is there no objective reality as far as you are concerned?
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14-10-2023, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
Is there no objective reality as far as you are concerned?
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Can we see objective reality or do we create a subjective image of our surroundings through our senses...... imo we do..... |
18-10-2023, 11:50 AM
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Having said that the Western I AM seems bigger than the East it is possible that it is in fact too lavish or too big. Maybe the simpler Eastern version of I AM is wiser. It is a tough call to decide between the two.
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18-10-2023, 03:00 PM
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Imo….no decision needs to be made.
I AM is literally I AM…….. east, west, whatever…..ALL…..IS I AM!!!
It can’t be compartmentalised it just IS.
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18-10-2023, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Redchic12
Imo….no decision needs to be made.
I AM is literally I AM…….. east, west, whatever…..ALL…..IS I AM!!!
It can’t be compartmentalised it just IS.
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Yes ' I am' is, no nationality is included  |
18-10-2023, 11:23 PM
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Yes, but is the Eastern description of I AM as comprehensive as the West? Does the East understand it as well?
I know that I AM does not discriminate, but Western & Eastern religions do. What I am asking is which religion describes I AM the best?
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18-10-2023, 11:24 PM
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Yes ' I am' is, no nationality is included |
The other way round is that ALL nationalities are included. I AM ought to be all inclusive, no?
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19-10-2023, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Redchic12
I AM is literally I AM…….. east, west, whatever…..ALL…..IS I AM!!!
It can’t be compartmentalised it just IS.
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I am glad that you know I AM to just be I AM. However my experience is that there are varying degrees to I AM. From pitch black and nasty to pure white and loving. Or whatever.....there are certainly objective differences between different types of I AM. In my experience. Hence I am careful which I AM I believe in and follow.
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19-10-2023, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
How big is I AM? What does it include or exclude?
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i see hints in the writings about jesus, that he saw god as (...) that encompassed all 7 isms, and the 5 aspects of physicality as well. (there were twelve sons of judah; twelve tribes of israel, and 7 + 5 = 12 ).
And I suspect probably he felt there was even much more to (...) than that...
I don't know enough about the place beyond this place to speculate what sort of things might be beyond its scope. But I would guess if we have a name for something, it isn't likely to be. |
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