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16-08-2021, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FairyCrystal
Unconditional love has to do with being to much in ego.
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Don't you mean conditional love here?
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16-08-2021, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by running
There is only one way to unconditional love and it is not by you or effort. You become open to divine love that flows through you and to others. Not to be confused with who and how you are from the mind or emotional body. Everything else is futile. in the context of unconditional.
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This is helpful in enabling me to better understand how unconditional love can be attained spiritually. (I had previously learnt that unconditional love is to love without expecting it in return but this is at the ego level.)
However, how does accessing divine love work in real situations e.g. when someone is in an abusive relationship? To show divine love for someone harming you just doesn't feel right i.e. like giving them the green light to continue!
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16-08-2021, 09:23 AM
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Eventually, we will probably discuss love.
Does it mean you actually feel love in your heart for a hurtful person?
Well, if you a not feeling Divine Love, (thank you, running), flowing within you, yet - how can this come about?
How can love manifest?
I think love has many forms - just having patience, (a form of kindness), instead of hate.
Understanding why the person is acting out instead of being angry, which brings compassion for their situation followed
ultimately with forgiveness.
*(Remembering this is not condoning the act itself or letting the person go free to continue harming people.)
My take, anyway.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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16-08-2021, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Eventually, we will probably discuss love.
Does it mean you actually feel love in your heart for a hurtful person?
...*(Remembering this is not condoning the act itself or letting the person go free to continue harming people.)
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I've always been interested in psychology, i.e. why people are the way they are. Trying to see the bigger picture in a situation enables me more often to understand reactions/behaviour, often leading to compassion....still not quite there though on that path that would further lead to unconditional love. Maybe once I've attained compassion I need to surrender, suspend thinking and open up to the higher force.... Hmm...I think I have a direction!
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Last edited by Miss Hepburn : 16-08-2021 at 10:05 AM.
Reason: Shortened quote as Admin has asked to 2-3 sentences
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16-08-2021, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by running
There is only one way to unconditional love and it is not by you or effort.
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I think forgiving is necessary. Otherwise the mind comes in the way and prevents from loving.
No?
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16-08-2021, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeS80
Don't you mean conditional love here?
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I was going to ask the same question.
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16-08-2021, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
We all know it's a cakewalk to love and forgive those close to us..
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Some have higher standards for those close to them actually !
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
'How' does one forgive, let go to be able to love unconditionally?
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Letting yourself off a metaphorical cliff works. After a few tries and bruises tho, but it's all worth it in the end, to open the door.
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16-08-2021, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
Not just someone, everything.
Someone is already a condition
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Profoundly said and an amazing truth as this just made me recognize the question of unconditional love, does this mean everything. We limit the idea to humankind and not everything (and every case) and it's easy enough to see and feel, there are things other then humankind I don't like, and I'm not in awe of, not having unconditional love for. Love in all things ? Amazing consideration. I partly love to be sure. Of course everyone does. Everyone loves 100% some of the time. Is it even possible to love all things. Good thing for reincarnation and grace.
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16-08-2021, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ameliorate
However, how does accessing divine love work in real situations e.g. when someone is in an abusive relationship? To show divine love for someone harming you just doesn't feel right i.e. like giving them the green light to continue!
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when your experiencing the love of god irrespective of your mind, emotions, and circumstance, you are being comforted. Like jesus said, "when the comforter comes down." he said something like that. the point is divine love comforts, quenches, makes things seem better, the only true thing
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16-08-2021, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by green1
I think forgiving is necessary. Otherwise the mind comes in the way and prevents from loving.
No?
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the mind and emotional body are a block until they can no longer block. divine love is far more powerful than your mind. but opening up to it is tricky. becoming open enough to it that nothing can no longer impede it is even trickier.
meditation
pranayama
yoga
trance
Meditating with a guru
some things that have worked.
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