HOW PURI UNIVERSITY CAN SAVE AMERICA and EUROPE FROM the 5th STROKE OF ICE AGE

[OPVerma]

INCREASING Nature's calamities seen as Corona Pandemic, global warming, climate change, wild fire, prolonged winter etc. are a subject matter of utmost concern. They are going to wipe out our civilization. Very soon they are going to cover America and Europe with thick Ice Sheets and push them to live in caves.

We have faced this situation in recent past also. 0.5 Million years ago we had 1st Stroke of Ice Age and after an interlude of brief recovery then the second -4 the Strokes took place covering America and Europe with ice with alternate relief.

When we are unaware of Nature's Bio-Laws we tend to play foul and suffer Nature's wrath. Acquiring knowledge of Nature's Bio-Laws we become friendly to it and it takes our care.

I am trying to set up Puri University in India to study God, Nature and Soul besides other academics. A vision plan and Courses could be seen on www.puriuniversity.com . Without losing any time Nations of American and European Governments should also try to set up such universities. By doing so and by spreading the Knowledge of God, Soul, and Nature They would be able to avoid impending 5th Stroke of Ice Age.

Just 100 years ago America was a Nation of mines, dusty roads, cow-boys and villages. If corrective steps are not taken it would be back to pavilion in next 100 years.

Be careful what you do. Look at what happened to the last bloke who arrived in Nazareth to save the world. You'll be ok until you upset the establishment.
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Originally Posted by Lorelyen

Be careful what you do. Look at what happened to the last bloke who arrived in Nazareth to save the world. You'll be ok until you upset the establishment.
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[inavalan]

Originally Posted by OPVerma

INCREASING Nature's calamities seen as Corona Pandemic, global warming, climate change, wild fire, prolonged winter etc. are a subject matter of utmost concern. They are going to wipe out our civilization. Very soon they are going to cover America and Europe with thick Ice Sheets and push them to live in caves.

We have faced this situation in recent past also. 0.5 Million years ago we had 1st Stroke of Ice Age and after an interlude of brief recovery then the second -4 the Strokes took place covering America and Europe with ice with alternate relief.

When we are unaware of Nature's Bio-Laws we tend to play foul and suffer Nature's wrath. Acquiring knowledge of Nature's Bio-Laws we become friendly to it and it takes our care.

I am trying to set up Puri University in India to study God, Nature and Soul besides other academics. A vision plan and Courses could be seen on www.puriuniversity.com . Without losing any time Nations of American and European Governments should also try to set up such universities. By doing so and by spreading the Knowledge of God, Soul, and Nature They would be able to avoid impending 5th Stroke of Ice Age.

Just 100 years ago America was a Nation of mines, dusty roads, cow-boys and villages. If corrective steps are not taken it would be back to pavilion in next 100 years.

I don't doubt your good intentions, just your realism.

[OPVerma]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

Be careful what you do. Look at what happened to the last bloke who arrived in Nazareth to save the world. You'll be ok until you upset the establishment..

What do you mean 'You'll be ok until you upset the establishment..'
? Is it a threat ?

Nature protects those who know its laws and abide them. It has protected me from electrocution in bathroom, from a charging bull, and from a deadly black magician. Nature has failed 5 times $10 billion LHC Experiment conducted by America, France, and Sweden just to protect and uphold the 'Indian Cosmology'. Powerful Nature rotates Galaxies. Knowledge of its laws would not upset any rightful establishment.

Originally Posted by OPVerma

What do you mean 'You'll be ok until you upset the establishment..'
? Is it a threat ?

If you look throughout history, whether it's the man Jesus or the Christian Gnostics of the 3rd Century. or the "hippy" movement of the 1960s (or many other things) you'll find many cases of a revolutionary person attracting followers to challenge the orthodoxy or status quo (the establishment). The establishment then bans (or worse) the movement to preserve itself. Jesus was executed; Gnostics were murdered; Timothy Leary (a high priest of the psychedelic revolution) was gaoled for 30 years. Etc.

You'll find the revolutionary is always closer to the gaol than the professor's chair.

Nature protects those who know its laws and abide them. It has protected me from electrocution in bathroom, from a charging bull, and from a deadly black magician. Nature has failed 5 times $10 billion LHC Experiment conducted by America, France, and Sweden just to protect and uphold the 'Indian Cosmology'. Powerful Nature rotates Galaxies. Knowledge of its laws would not upset any rightful establishment.

That may be the case with cosmic establishment - but I meant local governance: "the way things are done here by governments."

I mean, try to imagine making progress with your ideas in China.

Interesting. Unfortunately, humans were blessed with curiosity about Nature and itself - the relationship between humans and the ecology that supports it. At least one Biblical figure I can think of - Moses, was it? - was arrogant enough to preach that Nature was there for the service of "Man".
It was Jesus who put him right, declaring that "everything works together" (I forget the verse but it's early in the fragmentary remains of the Gospel of Mary Magdalene.)

But Moses' idea prevailed and until very recently: humans imagined that they controlled Nature. Unfortunately it's the other way around but better than Nature "control" humans it's Nature "supporting" humanity...or did. Human machinations upon the ecology are rapidly adjusting it away from supporting humans much longer.

But it's a big discussion (about Nature), too big for one post. Remember, in Nature we're just part of a cyclic food chain. We're also just another stage in the evolutionary line.
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[OPVerma]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

If you look throughout history, whether it's the man Jesus or the Christian Gnostics of the 3rd Century. or the "hippy" movement of the 1960s (or many other things) you'll find many cases of a revolutionary person attracting followers to challenge the orthodoxy or status quo (the establishment). The establishment then bans (or worse) the movement to preserve itself. Jesus was executed; Gnostics were murdered; Timothy Leary (a high priest of the psychedelic revolution) was gaoled for 30 years. Etc.

You'll find the revolutionary is always closer to the gaol than the professor's chair.

That may be the case with cosmic establishment - but I meant local governance: "the way things are done here by governments."

I mean, try to imagine making progress with your ideas in China.

Interesting. Unfortunately, humans were blessed with curiosity about Nature and itself - the relationship between humans and the ecology that supports it. At least one Biblical figure I can think of - Moses, was it? - was arrogant enough to preach that Nature was there for the service of "Man".
It was Jesus who put him right, declaring that "everything works together" (I forget the verse but it's early in the fragmentary remains of the Gospel of Mary Magdalene.)

But Moses' idea prevailed and until very recently: humans imagined that they controlled Nature. Unfortunately it's the other way around but better than Nature "control" humans it's Nature "supporting" humanity...or did. Human machinations upon the ecology are rapidly adjusting it away from supporting humans much longer.

But it's a big discussion (about Nature), too big for one post. Remember, in Nature we're just part of a cyclic food chain. We're also just another stage in the evolutionary line.
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Thanks, you have given up hostility.

I have done quite a bit of Research on Nature and Jesus and have found him to be most knowledgeable person (including great Indian Seers and Sages) in the 2 billion years history of man. He could manipulate Nature's Laws to his advantage and tricked it to take Karma of all man kind that no one has ever done before. He is my hero. He was not executed, he choose a willful death.

Persons and history, you are mentioning are of savage age, our world has much advanced since then. To become a Guru without knowledge of God, Nature and Soul is a dangerous proposition implicating oneself with other's negative Karma. Most of such Gurus in India are behind bars with charges of murder, rape and robbery. In India Guruship is seen as an icon of illiteracy, ignorance, and cheating. So no educated person wants to be a Guru.

I want to tell whole world what they are missing. Just by acquiring theoretical knowledge of Nature one becomes a 'Self Realized Person of 1st Degree' that entitles him for Nature's protection against all kind of disasters including ice age. One doesn't have to change his religion and faith or life style. Gradually Nature shapes his life so that he is able to practice its laws and can lead a Tragedy Free Life for advancing further.

If some Western Universities introduce 'Nature's Bio-Laws' Degree Course
subject or open New University for its study, they can avoid a lot many Nature's disasters including Ice Age.

[running]

In a billion years the earth will run out of oxygen. eat dessert first.

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by OPVerma

I want to tell whole world what they are missing. Just by acquiring theoretical knowledge of Nature one becomes a 'Self Realized Person of 1st Degree' that entitles him for Nature's protection against all kind of disasters including ice age.

How does acquiring mere theoretical knowlege of nature enable one to become enlightened or Self-realized ! It can make one a great scientist or scholar, but not enlightened.

Eastern philosophy emphasizes experiential understanding of reality over mere intellectual understanding.

It is true that the enlightened one who has conquered his 'monkey mind' attains mastery over nature. Nature becomes subservient and friendly to him or her.

But enlightenment is not gained by mere intellectual knowledge though it provides a sort of roadmap to the summit.

Originally Posted by OPVerma

Thanks, you have given up hostility.

I have done quite a bit of Research on Nature and Jesus and have found him to be most knowledgeable person (including great Indian Seers and Sages) in the 2 billion years history of man. He could manipulate Nature's Laws to his advantage and tricked it to take Karma of all man kind that no one has ever done before. He is my hero. He was not executed, he choose a willful death.

Persons and history, you are mentioning are of savage age, our world has much advanced since then.

I'm not hostile!

I wouldn't have called the 1960s a savage age. In fact the world has become a lot more savage since then.

I want to tell whole world what they are missing. Just by acquiring theoretical knowledge of Nature one becomes a 'Self Realized Person of 1st Degree' that entitles him for Nature's protection against all kind of disasters including ice age.

The problem here is that Nature (that includes us humans) is a system in the very real sense. I've said that before here so won't bang on about it except to say that, like every system, everything is functionally related. That is, you make an adjustment 'here' and its effect will reach deep into other components to which it's connected. It has many internal controls to preserve homeostasis when things go out of whack (if it can) but that may mean adjusting the whole thing to a new level.

Like, people talk about climate change. They rarely talk about ecology change yet climate change is ecology change. People are messing around with the ecology the whole time without realising the systems-wide changes they're forcing on the whole.

Wind farms for example are seen as a saviour. They cut out carbon emissions seen as partially responsible for climate change. It doesn't dawn on people that the wind farms are probably more damaging to the climate than burning coal. They take energy from the wind; they weaken the wind and thus change the air currents, just like razing a forest.

So to me, learning about Nature is learning General Systems theory; the feasibility of boundaries when examining just a part of a system; boundary-spanning activities; the relationship between different feedback loops and how to portray or model them; determining the relationship between components and where you can feasibly draw a line.

Whether it's worth the study now, with the ecology moving toward homeostasis that will no longer support humanity, I don't know. You only need look at the rise in neurological disorders: autism; OCDs and the like to realise that thus far neurotoxin research has been neglected. That ties in with pollution on every front - the sea, the air, the soil.... If and when it's taken seriously how will it encompass the necessary connections with the rest of the ecology?

The current state of our sciences, bound by orthodoxy, partisanship and vested interests isn't going to be enough.
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