Understanding Truth

[foundation123]

Christ said "I am the Truth. I am the way"

Can we understand simple Truth? Differentiate Truth from belief/Faith?

How much are we in Truth when we go to Genesis or Revelation or for that matter some of the theologies dished out by Apostle Paul?

The difference between Truth and belief is night and day.

You're not in truth at all currently, you are the captain and creator of your own little world.. The Truth is much greater and due to free-will cannot force itself into your world, you must allow yourself to enter into it. Our current perception, our own little worlds compared to the Truth are like an ant compared to the sun, the sun cannot fit inside an ant.

[inavalan]

What makes you think that "the truth" is simple? Anyway, I believe that "the truth" can be known (intuitively), more than it can be understood (intellectually). That would also take care of differentiating it from false beliefs.

Originally Posted by inavalan

What makes you think that "the truth" is simple? Anyway, I believe that "the truth" can be known (intuitively), more than it can be understood (intellectually). That would also take care of differentiating it from false beliefs.

The Truth is simple by comparison to the complexity we've created in order to physically survive.

The Truth is easy, simple, peaceful.. if it wern't it would not be heaven.

It's like you're throwing rocks into a placid lake, causing distortions instead of simply letting the lake simply be calm and placid.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by PureEvil760

The Truth is simple by comparison to the complexity we've created in order to physically survive.

The Truth is easy, simple, peaceful.. if it wern't it would not be heaven.

It's like you're throwing rocks into a placid lake, causing distortions instead of simply letting the lake simply be calm and placid.

letting it be calm is at least a start, but if you really want a view start draining water.

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

letting it be calm is at least a start, but if you really want a view start draining water.

True, yet if we drain the water from a pond to get a better view, what we see is a depression in the land, not the pond. Neither being more true or real than the other, both just being what they are.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by ketzer

True, yet if we drain the water from a pond to get a better view, what we see is a depression in the land, not the pond. Neither being more true or real than the other, both just being what they are.

i was actually referring to the empty space where the water was, not to the depression in the land

[foundation123]

Originally Posted by inavalan

What makes you think that "the truth" is simple? Anyway, I believe that "the truth" can be known (intuitively), more than it can be understood (intellectually). That would also take care of differentiating it from false beliefs.

By Truth, it was a reference to spiritual Truth. A capital T is I believe supposed to signify that.

One reason things look complex is a lack of understanding. Things look quite simple when one knows the answer.

Intuition can mislead. It would not bring anything to Truth domain. It would be different for different people while consistency is a hallmark of Truth.

Some of the other reasons we do not find Truth include
a) Looking at the wrong place (Example Genesis, Revelations). The right place to look is to examine our head, our hearts, helped by words of Christ and Apostles. Apostle Paul has sound advice but he has doled out theologies which has led us astray. Theologies are evil. They divide. They cause what is important to go out of focus.Now do not split hair that this itself is a theology. All that we need to understand is that we need to repent now and how do we do that.
b) Having assumptions. (We have inherited pagan beliefs. That on worship things will be doled out little realizing that our walk is the worship and that we do not get anything without the walk.)
c) Thinking it has to be complex, mystical.
d) We tend to look at Latin or Aramaic or root of those words when we do not bother to walk the important principles in plain literal English.
d) The refusal to question, even Christ. Ask right questions rather than too many questions. Is the question needed, purposeful.
e) The reliance on corrupt, foolish church and people who are namesake Christians. Security in numbers does not work here. Security is in right principles.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by foundation123

By Truth, it was a reference to spiritual Truth. A capital T is I believe supposed to signify that.

One reason things look complex is a lack of understanding. Things look quite simple when one knows the answer.

Intuition can mislead. It would not bring anything to Truth domain. It would be different for different people while consistency is a hallmark of Truth.

Some of the other reasons we do not find Truth include
a) Looking at the wrong place (Example Genesis, Revelations). The right place to look is to examine our head, our hearts, helped by words of Christ and Apostles. Apostle Paul has sound advice but he has doled out theologies which has led us astray. Theologies are evil. They divide. They cause what is important to go out of focus.Now do not split hair that this itself is a theology. All that we need to understand is that we need to repent now and how do we do that.
b) Having assumptions. (We have inherited pagan beliefs. That on worship things will be doled out little realizing that our walk is the worship and that we do not get anything without the walk.)
c) Thinking it has to be complex, mystical.
d) We tend to look at Latin or Aramaic or root of those words when we do not bother to walk the important principles in plain literal English.
d) The refusal to question, even Christ. Ask right questions rather than too many questions. Is the question needed, purposeful.
e) The reliance on corrupt, foolish church and people who are namesake Christians. Security in numbers does not work here. Security is in right principles.

Now I see where you're coming from: you know the simple Truth. What could say anybody who differs? Only: sorry.

Originally Posted by inavalan

Now I see where you're coming from: you know the simple Truth. What could say anybody who differs? Only: sorry.

Sorry won't do it MR. You will have to be taken to the spiritual woodshed. Perhaps a few million years in purgatory to help you see the simple truth.