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Old 01-05-2022, 05:32 AM
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To me it is a difference if I feel that someone is thinking about me and then what happens is that they will call me next day or so or we will beat each other to the point, but I never ever have felt as if I am in a "dreamy","sleepy"-state those times . However I have felt that one period in my life and that was with a person I was not into like that as it was into me. To me it is crossing a line that should not be crossed. Where does it start to be manipulative? Where does it start that I push my own will on someone else? Don't you want that person to get to that point inside themselves, how they feel about you - without you doing that? Why is it OK? It's not OK, not in my book it ain't. If you are manifesting or what you now like to call it - and that effects the other person to feel everything what the CavaliereStellar has described - it is too much so. I don't think it's OK. I would not reach out to a person doing that to me. You shouldn't force your own will on to someone else like that to make them feel like that, they have a life to live etc. All I can say it was a problem to me, in my every day life.

The one doing this to me would later talk as if in love with it's own story about a vision of our future etc and I remember I had this sober moment in my head at one point thinking But I'm not happy now. Why would I be happy over there? What's so good about over there, that it shouldn't be right now?

I don't know why people go around manifesting this and manifesting that when it concerns other people. Let them be, I say. Stop trying to manipulate them just because your feelings are so strong and you want it so bad. Let them come if they want to come. It's like having a real person leaning over you, trying to force you to listen. Who appreciates that? Leave people alone and let them feel in their sober mind and heart and spirit what they feel about you, and then you know when they come to you (if that is what you are waiting for) that they come 100% without the influence of the manifestation.

I get why some manifest some things in the future for them like they want to imagine they get the house of their dreams or the job they really want and to believe that will happen - fine. If anything it can be creative and being creative is good, so then lets say you can start being creative in your mind about that home you want and where it should be located and how it will be built. All good (in my book). But when it comes to other human beings I feel there has to be a line to not be crossed and I think for one if a person cross it the way it to me it sounds as if it has been crossed - that is not the kind of person I would want to be with. All in it's time, if it is to happen. One has to respect the other persons life line as well and well being, if now one claims to care so much for that person as well. And things happen in their time. I can just use myself for an example. I wanted to work somewhere but opportunity never came around I thought (inpatient) and then finally one day it did and I got the job. It is only as of later I understood because of what had happened all the time previously when there was no job offer that had I come then - I would not have liked it, it would not have been the place for me. All in it's time. It can be the same with humans, spirits. Just because you are ready - don't mean they are. Then don't try to stand over them like that. Let them come when it is their time and their time alone to do so, without any influence from the manifestation. Sure you should be true about your true feelings for them, but then you come pure, then you come in front of them. But this manifestation-style to the point that you are doing this to someone? Not OK. Sneaky, I'd say. Intrusive. Manipulative.

How come the person doing all this manifestation-frenzy don't pick up the phone like a normal person and call CavaliereStellar, that's what I wanna know? Perhaps because doing it this way it itself take no risk in getting rejected by calling, but allowing that down to CavaliereStellar? So then you are dealing with a coward as well? Anyone can sit in a secret corner doing manifestation, doesn't make it right.

Last edited by asearcher : 01-05-2022 at 07:07 AM.
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