"God is...nothing else is."

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

"God is...nothing else is."

My point exactly, whether we call it god or something else, there is only One.

My point is tha it isn't what you or anyone 'calls' IT that matters, it matters what you or they actually think IT is - that is, what It's characteristics are and what the raison d'etre of ITs (and consequently our) - meaning your, my and their, BEING really is.

Saying "God is" and "nothing else is" says nothing except (sloganistically, as I have mentioned!) that, as you put it, "there is only One." One what, Bro? Duh! Let me reassert that this is just like some mouthing "Jesus is Lord," "Allah hu Akbar," and/or chanting "Hare Krishna, Hare Rama" in 'bliss'.

Not exactly what I think of as discussion (ostensibly with others) material.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by davidsun

I hope so. My 'journey' includes relating to others using meaningful (as meaningful as I can devise) words. I therefore experience anyone making statements which are dismissive of or which talk 'down' to others' use of 'words' as though they were (relatively) insignificant (instead of thoughtfully engaging with them in, albeit agreed to, disagreement) as being disrespectful in relation to the authors of those words, whether said author be me or someone else.

I am questioning/challenging the value of making simplistic (what I call sloganistic) statements in a discussion forum by the way - though, yes, of course, I agree that others' may prefer and have a right to prefer to use them as 'tools' (maps?) on their journey.

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Observation ...ok
Interpretation ...ok
Conclusion ...ok (whether true or false)
Imposition? LOL Search for the imposer (imposter)!
Time for reflection!

One sees beauty ...simple
The other searches for a mathematical algorithm ...complex
What of it?
Each to his own
Peace

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

One sees beauty ...simple
The other searches for a mathematical algorithm ...complex
What of it?
Each to his own
Peace

Right brain, left brain - each/both a part (i.e. NOT the whole of) of 'knowing' (and 'deciding and (so) 'doing'.

Aye what, US? Yes, each to his or our 'own'!

[Dan_SF]

Imagine an energy cloud (cloud like the ones in the sky, but made out of energy instead of anything material)

Capable of creating worlds and realities which humanoids obviously cant.

Imagine this cloud creating a body, stepping into in an pretending to be a body.

Imagine, while in this body, this energy is not free, as it should be. It is a self imposed limitation, being capable of even calling God, its source, as devil.

It would not do so if it were joined with the source. But as it thought it stepped out of the source, it believed it has accomplished it, and by its belief it is behaving as if it is so.

But nothing has happened. because eternity is its reality, in which time does not exist.

Time is for it like an cinema movie strip, rolled out.
But the sleeping cloud is only concentrating on the each frame of this movie, believing its in it and not recognizing it can concentrate at the whole movie at once, or just leave it at all.

God is, and nothing else is.

Jesus is in God, and if you call upon Jesus Christ, he will step out and help you. But you are calling only on your real self if you look on it from the Eternity's point of view.

[Dan_SF]

When they say God is like you, but without a body, then it is true.

But think about it for a second, for then you will understand what the problem is.

If God is not a body, and you would not have a body, what is left then ?

Without a body, (provided that you do not believe that a Brain can think at all), you would only THINK.

And thinking differently than God is to oppose God. Opposing God is a loss of its creative power.

What is God ? Love or Hate/Fear ? Limitless or limited ? Justice or injustice ? Innocent or Sin ? Not a body or body ? Self or Ego ? Truth or nothing ? <- this was written for the one's who want to awake, for opposing God brings you what is not of God. Not because God want's it so, but because of your Choice not to be as God is.

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Ha! Quite the statement, eh?

That basically sums up ACIM... A Course In Miracles...
Well, and Ramana and Nisargadatta.
I dunno...can anything else be said after that !? Hahahahahlol

This is why the neti neti approach is flawed .

There is nothing that we are not .. at a grass root level .


x daz x

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by God-Like

This is why the neti neti approach is flawed .

There is nothing that we are not .. at a grass root level .

x daz x

Yah, maan! If you can even meaningfully call its that, such an 'approach' totally ignores and eclipses what we indiviudally and collectively ARE!

'Wisps' of mere (delusional?) 'dreams' if anything at all!

Talk about psychospiritual dissociation! icon_eek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociation_(psychology)

[Chanine]

Even with all this talk it's still unchanged..

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sit back and watch the ever changing within the unchanged..

Now smile :)

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Chanine

Even with all this talk it's still unchanged..

sit back and watch the ever changing within the unchanged..

Now smile :)

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[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Chanine

Even with all this talk it's still unchanged..

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sit back and watch the ever changing within the unchanged..

Now smile :)

Ahhh, the great couch potato, 'sit back' choice! There's a response to what's actually here (i.e. WAS and so now IS) and continuing to go on (and so WILL BE)!

Maybe also play a fiddle or two or sing some 'praises' while you are at it ... Why not? I mean, if you are one who can't stand just sitting and watching. That's another 'free' (to god-like folks) choice! Aye what?