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Old 21-01-2022, 03:06 PM
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in Christianity..... people yearn for a resurrection and for the most part, do not give much energy to reincarnation.

Odd though, most if not all religions that believe in reincarnation seem to also believe in Hell(s) in which some of those Hell(s) people are tormented.

As far as I can 'see', Hell in Christianity came about via poor translating methods. Numerous Bible have reduced the usage of Hell in their Bibles in recent years. Some translations, have completely removed Hell.
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Old 22-01-2022, 02:15 AM
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When Christ comes again he will reunite the bodies of every human with their souls. Why does Christian belief oppose reincarnation? We will die in union with Him. ... The Final Judgement, he will reunite our bodies with our souls.

Anyway, It all comes back to the body, the heart, and the soul.

Primarily, God is sovereign over us. This is found within the way of God's love... and Holy Wisdom.

God is not a pushover. God loves us and gives us chances, but God still wants us to act a certain way and won't just let us do whatever the hell we'd like for however long.

God also respects our will. If we refuse God throughout our lives, God after a certain point says “Okay, thy will be done,” and since we rejected God's love, God withdraws it.

We create our own hells in the end.


As it was said by someone, the absence of God's love in our hearts is hell.

And if our souls are eternal, Lord have mercy...

I watch the world, people have near-death experiences, and reincarnation seems possible to me too. But then it takes away from the resurrection of Christ in a glorified body?

Have faith I guess, I have never died that I can remember... what is the truth? I love you, Jesus.
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Old 22-01-2022, 03:18 AM
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It's a very different way of seeing life, one body, heart, and soul.

It's not Buddhist, or whatever....

You are you, and you are not God.

And you do not reincarnate, YOU transcend and resurrect.

With Christ.

This is Christianity.
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Old 22-01-2022, 01:20 PM
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And I once said in another post, you are nothing.

What I was getting at is that there is nothing in your soul that creates its own being.

Although, Simply ' Being" is good, calming the mind is good, getting close to the source is good.

But there is a distinction between Identifying with you as the source.

Was that not lucifers fall away from God, The "Morning Star". He was equal with God! Must be hell for him..
Ok sorry about my ranting.... it's just a passion of mine.
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Old 22-01-2022, 01:46 PM
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This teaching defames the Creator and portrays him as a sadist who tortures people in flames of fire for all eternity—as punishment for wrongdoings committed during the relatively brief human lifespan. ]
First of all, God does not make people suffer, either in hell or on the earth. It is the person's own misdeeds that make him suffer in fire in hell. Second, no one suffers in fire forever. Only for the duration of time that they deserve (which is often either an hour or a day.) Extremely wicked people suffer in fire for a month or so. Hitler the most wicked man in history suffered for 6 months.
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According to those who believe in literal hellfire torment, only wicked people will wind up in hell. Is that what you believe?
Yes, only wcked people go to hell, and the most wicked out of them go to the burning hell. Other less wicked people go to other lesser hells.
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Does the Bible teach that humans have an immortal soul that survives the death of the person so that the soul can then be burned in eternal flames?]
The Bible does not teach that. The destiny of ALL (each and every) soul is to be with God in his heaven, EVENTUALLY, after many births of purification and self-improvement on earth.

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Old 22-01-2022, 01:59 PM
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First of all, God does not make people suffer, either in hell or on the earth. It is the person's own misdeeds that make him suffer in fire in hell. Second, no one suffers in fire forever. Only for the duration of time that they deserve (which is often either an hour or a day.) Extremely wicked people suffer in fire for a month or so. Hitler the most wicked man in history suffered for 6 months.

Seems like a lot of speculation to me. How do you know that Hitler only suffered for 6 months?

And the problem I see with this way of thinking is that we are free to do whatever we want, God will forgive us.

I think God is all-merciful, and I have hope in that, we might all need it one day too.

And I am speculating too, aren't we all when it comes to spirituality, although I have a sense of it all within my mind and heart.

Could it be that our souls are created to rest eternally with God.
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Old 22-01-2022, 02:48 PM
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First of all, God does not Hitler the most wicked man in history suffered for 6 months.

Six months ? I personally believe that He would have suffered for most of His life due to the Mental illnesses He endured.....
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Old 23-01-2022, 12:25 PM
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i meant that hitler suffered IN HELL for 6 months.
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Old 23-01-2022, 12:37 PM
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Guys, the thread starter is gone, deleted.

Are we still talking about the topic here? Hellfire being a Bible teaching? There are passages that support it.
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Old 23-01-2022, 02:15 PM
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Sorry I will not converse with a cigarette-smoking bear..
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