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Old 03-01-2022, 07:51 AM
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Old 03-01-2022, 08:10 AM
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The Bible is what you make of it, what speaks to you, for some is this and for others is that.
God reveals Himself in various ways to different people under different circumstances imo
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:15 PM
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As a side note, Koine Greek does not have lower case and upper case letters.
English does, and there was a differential.
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In English there is a lower case and upper case. Those translating must have 'knowledge' of the surround texts, etc. to make the proper translation.

Can you image the implications of translating 'god' in 2 Corinthians 4:4?
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In English there is a lower case and upper case. Those translating must have 'knowledge' of the surround texts, etc. to make the proper translation.

Can you image the implications of translating 'god' in 2 Corinthians 4:4?


The greek lexicon, when speaking of the true God-Ho Theos is there, Plain theos like in the last line at John 1:1= a god small g. Yes plain theos is at 2Cor 4:4 speaking of satan. small g god.
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KJV--John 19:25; Standing close to the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother’s sister Mary the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene. Depending on the punctuation, this sentence could be made to appear as though there were three women by the name Mary at the cross of Jesus, Mary the mother of Jesus, her sister Mary the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene.

The ‘Living New Testament compounds this error, by stating in John 19: 25; “Standing near the cross were Mary the mother of Jesus, his aunt Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.”

The Evangelists wrote in Greek rather than in Hebrew...at that time only the capital letters of the Greek alphabet were used in writing, without diacritics, punctuation, or separation between words. Lower case letters appeared only in the ninth century, together with spacing between words. Punctuation marks were introduced only with the invention of the printing press in the 15th century. The present separations of chapters were introduced by Cardinal Hugo in the 13th century.

“Woman without her man is nothing,” But without punctuation, what is being said here? “Woman without her man, is nothing;” or “Woman! Without her, man is nothing.”

The erroneous punctuation which was added by the Roman church of Emperor Constantine in the 15th century, which makes it appear that there were actually three women at the cross by the name Mary, does not reflect the truth as revealed in the scriptures, and that is, that there were only two women by the name ‘MARY’ at the cross of Jesus, and they were his mother and his mother’s sister, or sister-in-law (Who are) Mary the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene.

Knowing from Mark and Luke that there were only two women by the name Mary, mentioned at the cross, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus, and that Matthew makes it abundantly clear that the only two women at the cross, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus, by the name ‘MARY’ were Mary Magdalene and the OTHER Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, Joseph and James the younger of her family, and knowing that Jesus from the cross spoke to his mother, “MARY the wife of Cleophas,” we are left with the only Logical conclusion, that the mother of Jesus, sometime after the death of Herod the Great, had married Joseph/Cleophas/Alpheaus, the son of Alexander Helios, a father of renown and that Joseph/Cleophas/Alpheaus, had adopted Simeon and Jude, the sons of another woman in the years that Mary was legally married to Joseph ben Jacob.

It was not uncommon for men of Galilee in those days to carry three names, one in Hebrew, one in Greek, and one in Aramaic. The son of Matthat and Alexandra, the should have been Hasmonian Queen, was ‘Alexander Helios III,’ who sired Joseph the biological father of Jesus, would have been seen as a father of renowned. Alpheaus and Cleophas, in Young’ s Analytical Concordance Subject Guide, are said to be one and the same person: From the Subject Guide; “Cleophas, husband of Mary, also called Alpheaus.”

Joseph, the biological father of Jesus, was the son of Alexander Helios/Heli a father of renowned who was murdered by Herod the Great in 13 BC. Cleophas, the Masculine form of Cleopatra, carries the Greek, meaning: “Of a renowned father,” and Alpheaus, is the Aramaic of the same meaning: “Of a renowned father.”

Thomas=Tau’ma, the Aramaic for twin, is also called Didymus, which is the Greek for twin, he is Thomas/twin, Didymus/twin, Jude, the half-brother of Jesus, who was called the apostle of many names, as he was also called Thaddaeus and Lebbeaus, the Greek and Aramaic words for ‘courageous.’ So Jude the brother of the Lord is the courageous apostle called ‘The Twin,’ and he should not be confused with the apostle whose actual name was ‘Thomas.’

BTW, it is my opinion that Mary Magdalene from the norther town of Magdala from who, Jesus drove out seven demons, was the biological sister to Joseph the son of Alexander Helios, and had two illegitimate sons, ‘Judas and Simeon’ who were adopted by Her brother, and Mary Magdalene was the sister-in-law to Mary and the aunty to Jesus, the biological son of Joseph ben Heli, her brother.
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