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Old 17-02-2022, 04:46 PM
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How can we be separate and one at the same time?!

How can we be separate and yet we are one at the same time? Don't you guys experience this separation? And how is that possible if we are one?!
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Old 17-02-2022, 04:49 PM
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Like if we are truely one then we are all doomed to eternal all one aloneness! And yet... Here we are having a conversation. How is that possible that we can even look at ourselves?! It makes no sense. Where does this awareness or twoness come from?

It comes from the one but that one cannot be known it seems? Because as soon as we know it, then there is two... And then we are the very one we are aware of.

This breaks my mind into pieces. What a paradox! What an infinitely big paradox!
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Old 17-02-2022, 05:09 PM
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We are all infinitely unique. Infinitely unique and equally unique. We are so infinitely equally infinitely unique, that we are all exactly the same one unique being! HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLEEEE?!

But all of this means nothing if there exists no one outside of the one. But the only thing outside of the one is just a different perspective that the one has of itself. And there are infinite of those and they are all infinitely equally infinitely unique and thus the exact same perspective that all that is has of itself. So there is just one perspective and it's infinite and eternally unique.

Then our awareness is basically fake? It is not true and real and absolute. It's just a perspective. And yet nothing feels more real than this... How can everything be so fake and so real at the same time?

I'm having a real fake experience! The most realistic fake experience that can possibly exist. It's so real that I can feel the real eternal infinite essence of it, and it's 100% fake forevermore! Eternally unable to reach the real realness! There is no end to the realness and it is forevermore fake!

Like... What is this....????

Are these the kind of thoughts people always have when trying to approach God Source?
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Old 24-02-2022, 06:51 AM
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We are all infinitely unique. Infinitely unique and equally unique. We are so infinitely equally infinitely unique, that we are all exactly the same one unique being! HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLEEEE?!
The self makes it all possible. The self is who you are Now in this moment and are going to and choose to be in the next moment, The self/who you really are is god/source/brahman being, experiencing, expressing and more importantly creating in this Now moment with the perspective/thoughts the self has.It is not that we do not know this, it is that we simply forgot, so the self can be what the self is and wants to be. In essence, the self already knows all of this, the self just needs to remember, and be conscious/aware of who the self is and of the self's perspective, being, experiencing, expressing and thoughts that create.

The mind, body, and spirit is the self as a whole, while in form or duality or relativity, The self/you can not be and experience who the self/you is without form or duality or relativity, You can not know who you are, without first knowing who you are not.
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Old 25-02-2022, 09:51 AM
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the self's perspective, being, experiencing, expressing and thoughts that create.
That would be the self via the ego, not the self itself. The self is undifferentiated consciousness and therefore cannot experience, the ego is differentiated consciousness and can experience because of the appearance of differentiated consciousness as separation.

The real question is, what happens because of the appearance of separation? That's where the answers lie.
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Old 25-02-2022, 11:19 AM
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The real question is, what happens because of the appearance of separation? That's where the answers lie.
Law of Attraction happens. And law of attraction is truely beyond duality. But how can we really understand what it is and does?
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Old 25-02-2022, 11:46 AM
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The real question is, what happens because of the appearance of separation? That's where the answers lie.
The answer from the non-dual perspective is nothing happens.
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Old 25-02-2022, 07:27 PM
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The answer from the non-dual perspective is nothing happens.
How do you work that out?
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Old 25-02-2022, 12:17 PM
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That would be the self via the ego, not the self itself. The self is undifferentiated consciousness and therefore cannot experience, the ego is differentiated consciousness and can experience because of the appearance of differentiated consciousness as separation.
You are right that undifferentiated consciousness, can not and does not experience because undifferentiated consciousness is the one formless/nonphysical god/spirit/self/oneness. It is called undifferentiated consciousness because it can not differentiate thus it can not express and experience itself, because it is one. The one becomes the many with Differentiated consciousness, which are opposites so the one formless/nonphysical god/spirit/self/oneness is able to choose, create and experience and express it's self/who and what it is in physical from.

Just to note: The head/brain does not contain the mind. The mind is in every cell of the body, and the mind is also in the one nonphysical self/spirit/god. It seems like the mind is in the head/brain because there are more cells in the brain than in any other parts of the body. The mind is just whatever thought(s) one has at this moment.

The mind does not contain thought(s) (that which contains something is limited as it can only contain so much or so little), the mind are the thought(s), (that which does not contain anything, but is that thing, is unlimited, which is god). Think outside of the box! Ego is the same thing as differentiated consciousness-thoughts that thinks, creates, and perceives and therefore experiences that one's self is separate from the one spirit/god/self.
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Old 25-02-2022, 11:20 PM
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Think outside of the box! Ego is the same thing as differentiated consciousness-thoughts that thinks, creates, and perceives and therefore experiences that one's self is separate from the one spirit/god/self.
It's funny. I'm a bunch of thoughts thinking. Hehehe. It's funny but its actually true.
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