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08-09-2020, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Flexi-Girl
You make a valid point Lorelyen. Unfortunately it's never that simple.
Sometimes people who wrong us are in positions of power and we have no recourse. Other times the person who wrongs us doesn't know or care. There is no way to get through to them. I don't have answers for those situations.
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Yes, that's why it's a case-by-case thing.
I cleanse my heart (and the other energy centres) with the Middle Pillar Exercise. Not always easy and takes time but it's an experience of inner cleanliness that defies description.
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08-09-2020, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by astralsuzy
I find it easy to forgive. If it was a stressful and bad situation then I do not know if I would find it easy to forgive. Over time I am finding it easier and easier to forgive. I admit I tend to dwell on what has happened for a while.
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Perhaps luckily but I don't often get into a situation where forgiveness is necessary nowadays.
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08-09-2020, 10:20 PM
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Ascender
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 822
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Originally Posted by Lorelyen
Perhaps luckily but I don't often get into a situation where forgiveness is necessary nowadays.
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It's easier to stay out than get out.
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09-09-2020, 01:45 AM
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Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 6,417
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Originally Posted by Flexi-Girl
It's easier to stay out than get out.
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everyone likes it clean, but sometimes living with the fact you've got a mess is best.
As far as the idea that one should 'withhold' forgiveness either for retribution or for the idea that the other person should somehow learn something from not being forgiven, I'm not sure I would agree. Who made ME the sole arbiter of what other's lives should be like? So there has got to be more to any decision to forgive or not to forgive than that.
Unfortunately I don't think there is a formula for this... our idea that there is is just to make our own lives easier, or sometimes to keep us from having to face the consequences of our choices.
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20-09-2020, 09:15 PM
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Seeker
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 47
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I think too good. There's a difference between forgiving someone that legitimately changes vs. continually letting people walk over you constantly brushing it off. At least that's my experience.
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28-09-2020, 09:14 AM
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Newbie ;)
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 16
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I cannot say that I have Christian patience and the ability to forgive (in the canonical version). I try to hold back my initial reactions but ... I believe in the principle of boomerang and karma. You get what you give sooner or later.
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26-02-2022, 11:25 PM
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Knower
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Finland
Posts: 107
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Originally Posted by Flexi-Girl
I am curious how people here are with forgiveness. Do you find you forgive easily or hold onto stuff more?
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I'm very bad at it. I simply can't relate at all to the kind of people, who are very quick to forgive. I don't know whether I admire them or whether I think that they're crazy. I just don't get it how some people are like that. I'm not built that way.
But, in my defense, I don't hold on to pointless grudges. I only keep the prime-quality grudges. I have standards, if a grudge wants to stay, it gotta prove itself to me, I only keep a well-selected collection of grudges that meet a set of very sophisticated criteria.
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26-02-2022, 11:33 PM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: sea dream u cud say
Posts: 22,460
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No I know I need to learn to forgive myself before us can forgive me on certain things I've done 100 not out on things I'm not far off I am not proud of but heaven has but everything's I am to blame for myself I come for the family because my cousin Tyler Stoke because I found a time of year minute me they were here mean at me and angry because that stuff causing that stroke the best part is they were cos they only got the ticket and faster than me but no I am too playing because my sister I am because I still can't forgive me for causing her to have a stroke but it would have been three and a half mile and a half my back home because it couldn't be bothered because they're important I'm not like that but at least I've got a conscience number I did well I'll be sorry to My Dying Day de4 causing a stroke I am but one day I will learn to forgive myself and God will forgive me I'm pregnant forgive me for causing a stroke on that 80 my cousin I know we are not the best friends are cousins but I did not meant for that to happen my excuse was a time I missed the last bus to get to the house plus it was dark knight as snow on the ground and I was not well idont care if you're not well you're not important which I know I am in the wrong but so should have Sunday is because I've a conscience and I hope one day God can forgive me I've got can forgive me I can forgive me
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27-02-2022, 12:17 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,237
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Originally Posted by ArcticWolf
I'm very bad at it. I simply can't relate at all to the kind of people, who are very quick to forgive. I don't know whether I admire them or whether I think that they're crazy. I just don't get it how some people are like that. I'm not built that way.
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I can easily forgive someone. If someone did something like murder then I probably would not be able to forgive. I admire people that can forgive when shocking things happen. They are able to forgive so they are not bitter and angry. They do it for themselves not for the other person who did the crime.
I like to forgive people. We all make mistakes and no one is perfect. Everyone deserves a second chance.
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27-02-2022, 02:59 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,237
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If someone apologises to me then I can easily forgive. If they do not then I tend to keep my distance.
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