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Old 08-09-2021, 09:14 AM
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Buddhist Research.

Buddhist researchers seek to reveal link between heart, mind.
Some may find this Article interesting.

https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhist-r...er-heart-mind/
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Old 17-09-2021, 02:10 PM
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They say the real mind is the heart and the brain is the body.
Body, speech and mind.
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Old 17-09-2021, 03:07 PM
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They say the real mind is the heart and the brain is the body.
Body, speech and mind.
It's an Interesting Article and mybe one day could help in Medical Research.
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Old 17-09-2021, 03:42 PM
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I know a person who was a child of very abusive alcoholic parents. He is now 25 years old. He is not doing well at all. He has the typical anti-social angry somewhat "sociopath" traits common in some severely abused neglected children. I stay away from him myself. He is uncontrollable and scary.

His human conditioning has been horrible as far as living a happy fulfilling life or being a loving kind giving selfless person. He was not nurtured or loved as a child. My opinion is this can be a gift. As the suffering is so bad one has no choice except to try to transcend the human mind and conditioning. It's the only place/state he will find peace in my opinion. His brother is in even worse shape. He has severe panic attacks and fears of other people. He is living with a family of his friend and sits in a little room all day playing video games. He has lived like that for five years now. Never leaving that room or interacting with other people.

We are spirit in a body. Living a human life. Karma determines our fate. It gives us what we need to correct our faults. Out of the depths we rise. The more terrible our "conditioned human persona," the more we will be motivated to be free of it. Love really is the answer. In selfless surrender, or "emptiness" in Buddhist terms, in transcending self concern or self interest, comes liberation. Liberation from the human person, and freedom as one without ego, without a life centered in the human mind. A life centered in flow with what is and what was meant to be, centered in what is beyond our conditioned minds running commentary on what it is.
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Old 17-09-2021, 03:57 PM
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The spiritual heart, right in the centre of the chest, also geometric centre of the chakra system, thus represented by upward and downward triangles, Star of David, seat of soul, may be felt as a material-ethereal reality, crystallised in our pranic energy field.

It is significant that after ascent of our dormant consciousness (kundalini) from root to crown and even piercing the fontanel, the embrace of polarities culminates in divine union only after the male & female aspects balance out and then descend to the heart, whereupon an explosion of bliss in renewal results.

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They say the real mind is the heart and the brain is the body
Wise words so once head and heart align, in resonance with love, we stand erect.
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Old 17-09-2021, 04:24 PM
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Karma determines our fate

The Buddha taught that Karma is mutable, which Religion teaches that it determines our fate ?
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Old 18-09-2021, 02:49 AM
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which Religion teaches

i was wondering how a religion can teach since it is not a person but then the idea came that passive writing exists right. somewhere lol. bookstores online etc. but those are not unlike "mountains". they are just there. passive. they themselves are not "teaching." in the case of books, it's paper and ink just sitting there passively. without consciousness, on a bookshelf somewhere, in a desk. (online for modern times) in programming code, HTML...how does it teach? a living being has to pick it up (or look) and read it... read the words, derive a meaning, if any, so is the religion, the book teaching? a teacher? one can decide what is happening there for themselves. create one's own reality with belief. all depends on the person, or consciousness reading it...taking from it, creating from it, deriving meaning out of the paper and ink. adding a layer of thought in the now, the empty now.

it's probably the same with what I type here... it's just words on a screen. what is it?, up to us. some conflict?, right or wrong lol sure if that's what one wants now to be, to create with mind, conflict

reading words, reacting with our own words somehow linked to the words read, it's a strange way to live or be, inferring a relationship between what is read and said, humans are very good at pretending this way...

what I am saying is related to what they said... but is it really? it came out of different minds? not at all. i'd say no relationship at all externally from person to person...it all takes place in the same mind, the reading and replying.... the same mind interpreting meaning from both what is read and what is replied.... so does religion teach? from ink to mind.... or does mind mirror itself..?. make up an answer for yourself. my guess is we are the only teachers as teaching is basically understanding conceptualized, (comma there) experience or understanding in language which is just a bunch of symbols, letters and such unique to the time and place and people, chickens scratching in the dirt!

what reality is in a symbol? as much as we want.
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Old 18-09-2021, 06:27 AM
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Buddhism generally holds that kamma determines fate (or volition affects outcomes), but it's an intricate philosophical concept, so the key word there is 'generally'.
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Old 18-09-2021, 02:41 PM
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as john lennon wrote in his song instant karma

instant Karma's going to get you
Going to knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're going to be dead

some karma is felt instantly. easy to see

when we identify with certain thoughts, certain feelings and perceptions and experiences come, right here and right now, that's instant karma

that's why religions are so popular, it's real stuff going on here

whether "mindfulness" "meditation" "emptiness" for the person into zen or Buddhism or "surrender" "faith in jesus" "seeing god" for the Christian" the effects are felt immediately!

one time i sat on a hill overlooking a beautiful church and in that moment surrendered myself, transcended my own thoughts or mind, and everything changed. it was a luminance perception, awake dream. bliss,..short lived lol but all the same...if one can have a moment one can have that as eternity...

up to us to learn to connect

but ya the longer term karma.... like why am i sick or poor? why did i get bad parents? why am i rich? (not my karma!) that type of thing plays out over the life time, long term. we cannot see the cause as it was from our past actions in a past life

it is what it is.... make the best of it. as carlos castanada wrote in one of his books, it's not about what is present as often we have no control over that, it is about being impeccable in the moment.

being the absolute perfect in that moment, "being" impeccable ~ selfless, empty, free, liberated, at peace, without one spec of conflict within or without, even if one is in a war..... go with the flow, the tao, like krishna telling arjuna on the battlefield... let the karma flow, be what it is, but us, we can "be" impeccable in that moment.... and the next...
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Old 20-09-2021, 08:18 AM
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It relates back to moral foundations when the nature of your volition (good or ill will) determines outcomes. To know your volition is trickier than you'd first think, and it takes truthfulness and self awareness to really understand motives. You have to be conscious of how you react because that's where kamma (volition) is instant. It's too easy and too fast to react with adversity and craving, which generates ill-will. It's all very closely connected, so we can say it is instant karma.
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