Why am I not allowed to exist?

[MatteoFontes1996]

Originally Posted by ajay00

Hinduism refers to two selves, the authentic one named Self, and the fictional self.

The Self is considered to be of an eternal nature, and is considered to be pure consciousness or awareness or Being.

The Self, our Being, is awareness. - Sri Muruganar

Most people identify with the fictional self, which is also known as the ego and the false self, and is a product of the imagination. It is a composite of all one's identities in life which is invested with a lot of emotion. As the false self or ego is ultimately fictional, it tends to be unstable and is characterized by negativity and reactivity and a deep sense of insecurity.

The goal of Jnana yoga in Hinduism lies in recognition of the true Self, and intelligent discrimination between the Self and the lower self, and constantly identifying with the former rather than the latter.


Don't ever lose awareness of your Being. - Sri Ramana Maharshi

Remember your Self always and everywhere. - George Gurdjieff




If the 'me' stated here is the Self or awareness, I assure you it is of an eternal nature.

If the 'me' however is the ego or false self, it is bound to attract competitive forces. You are bound to attract what you identify with.

What may be happening around you may be a manifestation of the inner battle within you of the true Self and the false self.

The Self is revealed when you are deeply relaxed while the false self or ego is usually accompanied by stress and tension.

So just deeply relax yourself, be still and feel the Self within. This is the authentic you, and is of the nature of divinity.


Manifest the divinity within you and everything will be harmoniously arranged around it. ~ Swami Vivekananda

I didnt know any of that. Thank you im going to explore Jnana yoga. I wish you could tell the difference between my eternal self and my ego. I was never like this.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by MatteoFontes1996

and i dont

Thank you, m'dear. This is generally a nice place...no one is perfect...
try being nicer --they may not get it ...so what, they aren't therapists or mind readers - but they take a stab at it.
Ignore them rather than be rude to them.
Or say, 'Thanks, but that's not gonna work for me'..and move on...see what I mean?
Good luck.

Originally Posted by MatteoFontes1996

give me what i asked for or nothing. You still say things that arent not true. "Thinking change is your defeat and their victory is a guarantee for continued suffering." is an example. If expressing my great suffering makes you suffer a little then you should show a little forgiveness for my edge.

That's the issue. You want the world to conform to your desires and it just doesn't work that way. If you want to play the desire and aversion game then you best get used to competing and living with everyone else's desires and aversions.

Originally Posted by MatteoFontes1996

I didnt know any of that. Thank you im going to explore Jnana yoga. I wish you could tell the difference between my eternal self and my ego. I was never like this.

What I've been talking about thus far is mindfulness. Jnana Yoga is light years beyond that in accepting the human condition as not affecting your real nature whatsoever.

The essence of Jnana Yoga is you are not the body or mind so whatever affects body and mind doesn't affect you. That's a much more radical approach than simple mindfulness and since you don't think too much of that as a solution you aren't going to fair well with Jnana Yoga. Besides a prerequisite for Jnana Yoga is clarity of mind and that's a product of meditation and a good amount of it.

Long story short, there's no easy and fast solution. It's going to require a lot of hard work and work that will require facing the hard truths of the material world.

If you want a real solution try mindfulness meditation for a month but it has to be a daily practice of at least 20 minutes a day. If it helps stretch it out to three months and if that helps even more then make it a part of your lifestyle. Get a few years of that under your belt and you might be ready for Jnana Yoga.

Best online teacher of Advaita Vedanta which is heavily Jnana Yoga based is Swami Sarvapriyananda of The Vedanta Society of New York.

https://www.youtube.com/c/VedantaNY/videos

Specific Jnana Yoga videos:

https://youtu.be/EijmfagFw20

https://youtu.be/w-Efnm1O_WI

https://youtu.be/sD6MgSiRk9A

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by MatteoFontes1996

I didnt know any of that. Thank you im going to explore Jnana yoga. I wish you could tell the difference between my eternal self and my ego. I was never like this.

The eternal Self, has the 'S' in capital case to distinguish it from the lower self or ego. (where the 's' is in lower case).

It takes some study and patience to learn Jnana Yoga in detail.

But essentially the Self is charecterised by bliss and joy which are considered characteristic of one's true nature. It is to be intuitively or experientially felt rather than thought about because the Self is subtler than the mind and intellect.


Stress and tension accompany the lower false self or ego or self-image which is just a fictional product of the imagination and psychological memory. Most people identify with the lower self, and suffer for it, as it is unnatural and in odds with the existential reality around them.


Through understanding the Self or one's true nature, much of our self-inflicted mental or psychological issues comes to an end as they are all correlated to the lower false self.



You find peace not by rearranging the circumstances of your life, but by realizing who you are at the deepest level.— Eckhart Tolle

Nearly all mankind is more or less unhappy because nearly all do not know the true Self. Real happiness abides in Self-knowledge alone. All else is fleeting. To know one’s Self is to be blissful always. - Ramana Maharshi

[Aditi]

Originally Posted by MatteoFontes1996

It's one thing when people around me dont want me to exist. i can deal with that. but when forces in the universe dont want me to exist and impede on my happiness what can I do? Is there a story or something in a religious text about somebody who is always bothered by the universe or people around him?

You might get something out of reading Mahabharata. The main text is massive, but I have heard that William Buck's translation is clear, still easy to locate and pleasant to read, although I haven't yet read that one myself.

Bhagavad Gita is from Mahabharata. I think the main theme of Bhagavad Gita is detachment; detachment from the temporary, attachment to the eternal. Krishna has a lot of advice about how to do what you have to do in the world while remaining detached. The theory being that attachment to things which are temporary, things with defects, is the cause of inevitable disappointment and suffering, and genuine detachment gives relief from suffering.

I don't especially worship Krishna, but probably my favourite thing about him, which you might appreciate too, is the way he doesn't hesitate to follow his own moral compass. I may not agree with all of his decisions, but it's obvious he's trying to do what is right, even if it means going against the culture or the people around him.

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by Aditi

You might get something out of reading Mahabharata. The main text is massive, but I have heard that William Buck's translation is clear, still easy to locate and pleasant to read, although I haven't yet read that one myself.

Bhagavad Gita is from Mahabharata. I think the main theme of Bhagavad Gita is detachment; detachment from the temporary, attachment to the eternal. Krishna has a lot of advice about how to do what you have to do in the world while remaining detached. The theory being that attachment to things which are temporary, things with defects, is the cause of inevitable disappointment and suffering, and genuine detachment gives relief from suffering.

I don't especially worship Krishna, but probably my favourite thing about him, which you might appreciate too, is the way he doesn't hesitate to follow his own moral compass. I may not agree with all of his decisions, but it's obvious he's trying to do what is right, even if it means going against the culture or the people around him.

Well stated, Aditi.

I enjoyed reading this. Non-attachment, following the moral compass or doing the right thing are basics of spirituality, and its good to be reminded of them from time to time.