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22-07-2016, 04:28 PM
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A desision of free will or a "sin"?
I have a question and i hope it not get misunderstod, its just interessting to know about that subject. If it isnt allowed to talk about please ignore it, i didnt know.
What happens to the soul if a human decides to erase himself of life?
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22-07-2016, 04:43 PM
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Master
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This isn't a suicide thread is it? I hope you aren't thinking that way. You should seek counselling if you are.
Death is not the end, whether it be natural, at the hand of another or at one's own hand.
If there are lessons one needs to learn, one needs to learn them. And one will.
So it will require another incarnation to fulfil what was not fulfilled before.
Whatever comes 'your' way, stand your ground and battle through it.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.
http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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22-07-2016, 05:17 PM
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I see it got misunderstod :(
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22-07-2016, 05:24 PM
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And even if...i admit of being tired but No im not in danger of myself i just wanted to understand why people consieder that way and what are the consequences. I just want to understand why peoples sometimes not seing another way then to give up whats wrong with it?! It doesnt mean i do anything bad :(
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22-07-2016, 09:10 PM
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Everything happens with purpose and for the greater good. Unfortunately from our perspective this is heavily obscured.. while there might seem like an apparent this = that interaction.. or this causes that interaction, from a higher perspective every circumstance is unique-- so to say why or what happens in generic terms will always miss the subtle incomparable circumstances that truly express the nature of the situation.
So to say why someone would want such a thing and what would happen to such a person is probably best avoided, as the soul of a person's expression is so distorted to the circumstances of our situation, that one can't see what one is trying to do.
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22-07-2016, 11:38 PM
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If at any circumstance that you were thinking of suicide there's a way and a place to go and to avoid the unnecessary action. To become a Buddhist ,the Buddhism philosophy is just good for a person at that stage of mindset ------tire of life. Buddhism is forgotten everything beside/including himself that's everything is void and emptiness, even life is void so suicide is not the only choice. To study Buddhism become a good reason to live on.
Suicide is a sin making to ourselves and there's a afterlife that nothing is forgotten.Let say, hanging himself so his spirit after death will have a long tongue hanging out by the spirit. I have seen this type of ghost. That's no worth of any suicide attempt.
Last edited by Jeremy Bong : 23-07-2016 at 12:42 AM.
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23-07-2016, 12:49 AM
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I said at the beginning i dont do anything, i not thought about it but at the past i admit it but now im not. I just wondered as i said what happening to a soul, ive got people they did thi, sometimes im in grief because i dont understand. I promise, i keep my promise im not doing any vad please you have to trust me. I know this subject is a kind of a tabu, but i see that this choice get more valid in this society and it worth to be discused. Thank you gor answering yes with buddhism i agree, ive got a promise to myself if my life will slip away again ill go to the buddhist monastry rater then end my life of my own. I feel very deep connected with buddhism eventough i never practiced any, many of my thoughts are similar to it.
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23-07-2016, 03:13 AM
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It ceases to exist, just as the individual wished. This is why it's so important to differentiate between internal thoughts like "I want to die" and more honest thoughts, like "I wish my pain would stop." Rarely does a suicidal individual truly want to die at the core of it.
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23-07-2016, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beloved_of_Set
It ceases to exist, just as the individual wished. This is why it's so important to differentiate between internal thoughts like "I want to die" and more honest thoughts, like "I wish my pain would stop." Rarely does a suicidal individual truly want to die at the core of it.
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Thats true unless the individual doesnt see any other solution to end his/her pain i guess.
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23-07-2016, 08:04 PM
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I don't think it's an either/or question, the 2 are not mutually exclusive imo.
In fact, how it's most often read/interpreted, researched and debated conceptually speaking, is the belief that evil came about because humankind was given free will. The knowledge of (the tree) of good and evil caused Eve & Adam to gain self-consciousness/shame, causing the dualistic split, kicked out of paradise & descent into the material world which was, supposedly the original, air quotes "sin" (prior to that it was all golden ambrosia drank out of glowing crystal chalices, frolicking with butterflies in the glade by Adam's summer cabin and glorious lovemaking with Eve all day, after sleeping in, and steak dinners every night).
Or loosely that is how some conceive of such 'humanity's fall from grace' type mythology in the Bible & elsewhere. Minus the part in brackets, may have taken some liberties there, but point being, allegedly paradise preceded the "forbidden" knowledge of free will. Why God would have trees with forbidden apples hanging from them lying around in the forest at all in the first place is another question, he must have known it might be a problem.
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