If there is time in it it is wrong

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Does that also include progress and Ascension?

Hi Greenslade,

I guess this argument doesn't apply to wisdom.

3d

Originally Posted by 3dnow

Hi Greenslade,

I guess this argument doesn't apply to wisdom.

3d

Wisdom is understanding the argument.

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Originally Posted by 3dnow

Now philosophy says that only now makes sense.

So if there is time in it, it is wrong.

Any idea supporting this argument?

For example:

I judge someone. I am wrong because there is necessarily time in judgment:

1. I say he is like this or that. I labeled him. I predicted that he will be always like that in the future (time). I am wrong he may change in a second.
2. I accused him for something. What he did is the result of his past (time) of which I have no idea.

Even those who judge, we cannot judge them.

I cannot be judged, I cannot judge.

3d

Question: Some say time is really space or dimensional. Space and dimension are not so esoteric, they make sense. But 3d I like what you say.

Rationally consider. If a spiritual realm is outside "time" and time isn't part of that existing that would be forever, that's unacceptable to me. If time exist does purpose play into it, just as space and dimension. I see an expression of purpose to it. Union of purpose and time seem to make sense to me.

But this infant new philosophy is I thought old, simply not part of Western ideology they seem to have borrowed. Logically (to me) the reason spiritual realm isn't seen probably has a more scientific reason a simple matter of frequency and limitation of senses. It coexist in time simply. Also we don't practice seeing such things. If any of this is true then it's a mistake to use realm that exist and part of total reality versus what we see. My opinion is if you can explain this now, you can really explain any.

Time is generally accepted to be the fourth dimension; I disagree.
While taking into consideration the limits of human senses of perception;
While acknowledging that humanities and individuals collective awareness of our
physical circumstances is greater than our senses, due to measuring devices;
While the limits of perception are notably varied in terms of time;
I must come to the conclusion that time is a subjective experience
for men and women and every individual.
Instruments do not measure time, they merely mark time.
People merely record events relative to one another;
They compare relative occurrance.
Therefore time is not a dimension
Time is a phenomena which does not exist.
There are merely sequences of phenomena, one after the other.
Time is misperceived.
An object can logically be measured more accurately
if time is not called "the fourth dimension".
Are there more than three dimensions?
Certainly.
It would seem that adding mass to the list next would be most logical.
Mass, a function of density, as affected by gravity
should be our fourth dimension for the theoretical object of our attention.
Certainly, one might divide the forces that make up gravity
into constituent parts, for argument's sake:
1) The Sun;
2) The Earth's magnetite pulling on us;
3) The effect of the mass of the Moon;
4) The nearby constellations (astrology was historic);
5) The collective force of the 100 M. stars of the Milky Way.
Somewhere in this ocean of gravitational influences,
an answer lies to the question, "what is gravity?"
So would not force be a likely contender for the fifth dimension?
Many objects demonstrate this characteristic...
Would atmospheric influences be a measurable choice for the sixth dimension;
Where does light come into play? A seventh dimension?
Lastly, thought, of the observer, always influencing that which he observes
be the eighth dimension?
I contend we should account for actual phenomena in considering our
perception of dimensions.
Why cut the list short with "time" as the final thought.

Two people standing side by side percieve time differently.
Women's bodies have a twenty-eight day cycle, men's bodies a thirty-five day cycle.
Time passes, as a measure of the Earth's spin, and orbit around the Sun,
and the Moon's orbit around the Earth.
Time on Mars is significantly different in measure.
A day is longer, a season is longer on Mars due to a greater orbit..
There are sundials which cast a shadow relative to Earth's position.
There are hourglasses which in a fixed amount of time, complete their cycle.
There are devices which operate at a fixed rate to 'measure' time.
Gears in older clocks and watches spin at a predictable rate,
powered by a spring.
Timing chips in modern clocks and watches count at a known rate.
Atomic clocks count the measure of atomic decay.
All operate at known rates, none measure per se.
Nothing truly measures time.

Dimension: (Webster's Unabridged): In physics, a fundamental quality, as
mass, length, or time, in terms of which all other physical quantities
are measured; as the dimensions of density are mass divided
by the cube of length.

Mass is a function of gravity;
Gravity is a function of orbit.
Out of orbit, mass loses meaning.
In our Solar System, all is dependant on the mass of the Sun;
The mass of the Sun is relatively infinite,
dictating the function of all nine planets.

Few realize, there are only 23.93 hours in a rotation of the Earth.
One day.
That a day is actually 25.2 seconds short of 24 hours.
But we compensate.
That affects our decisions.
Literally.
In philosophy, time is money.
Say something novel, before it runs out!

Originally Posted by 3dnow

Hi Greenslade,

I guess this argument doesn't apply to wisdom.

3d

Isn't wisdom gained over time?

Thank you all for comments.

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Isn't wisdom gained over time?

Yes that's why I believe the argument does not apply to wisdom.

3d

Originally Posted by 3dnow

Thank you all for comments.
Yes that's why I believe the argument does not apply to wisdom.

3d

So if there is no time there is no wisdom? It takes time to start from here and finish there so there is no progress, no Ascension?

Originally Posted by Greenslade

So if there is no time there is no wisdom? It takes time to start from here and finish there so there is no progress, no Ascension?

I am not saying there is no time..

I am saying if your emotion depends on time (past of future), it should be a illusory one.

Because we cannot understand both past no future...

wrong post sorry