Healing via hypnosis and meditation from a Neuroscience perspective

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

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Comments? Thoughts?

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It works. This is because thought is primary, and matter is secondary.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Redchic12

I’ve tried hypnosis and it doesn’t work on me.

I have heard that some people just cannot be hypnotised. I guess I’m one of them.

Everybody can be hypnotized, and experiences hypnotic states every single day. There are just incompetent hypnotists that are unsuccessful. The more intelligent people are easier to hypnotize, but you can hypnotize even a dog (no disrespect intended to the dogs; I actually love dogs).

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

That is an excellent point that you just raised, and Dr. Spiegel specifically mentioned that there are a number of people who resist hypnosis for various reasons and hence cannot be hypnotized against their will (conscious or unconscious).

That is precisely why he suggested self-hypnosis for such people as they may feel more in control with such a practice.

There are many simple methods like "negative suggestions" (don't think that, don't do that, ...), "confusion", "surprise", ...

[Mahdi El-Mirak]

it's certainly interesting and I have read many accounts that are hard to explain and believe. I think the key is for people to have access to many techniques without exploiting them or giving them false hope.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by inavalan

It works. This is because thought is primary, and matter is secondary.

Of course, thought is primary and matter is secondary. That's exactly the point.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on WHY certain people can experience physical cures through hypnosis while others do not (assuming that the hypnotist is competent in both cases). I'm engaged in this discussion in another venue, and I'd love to hear what you have to say about this.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by inavalan

There are many simple methods like "negative suggestions" (don't think that, don't do that, ...), "confusion", "surprise", ...

That's an interesting point that you just raised. I have heard (but not verified) that the negative part of "negative suggestions" does not register with the person being hypnotized.

Hence, while suggesting to a person "don't do that", it reportedly registers as just "do that".

Since I have not verified that and can't even remember where I heard that, I would appreciate any further input you could give on this subject.

[saurab]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

WHY certain people can experience physical cures through hypnosis while others do not

Because for some undeserving people who need to suffer, the Higher Self prevents the suggestions from taking effect. The Higher Self has ABSOLUTE control over the whole organism, body, mind, emotions, feelings. That is the reason why some people are cured of cancer and other life threatening diseases and some are not.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

... "negative suggestions" ...
Since I have not verified that and can't even remember where I heard that, I would appreciate any further input you could give on this subject.

The typical example is: "Don't think of a pink elephant now!"

You should, at least vaguely, briefly have imagined one.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

... WHY certain people can experience physical cures through hypnosis while others do not ...

As I understand these, nobody is cured by another (not even by Christ); everybody can be cured only by themselves.

The hypnotist may facilitate your getting in contact with subconscious, but ultimately the cure depends only on what you communicate to your subconscious, both consciously and unconsciously. Your beliefs and your emotions are the main factors.

[saurab]

Originally Posted by inavalan

As I understand these, nobody is cured by another (not even by Christ); everybody can be cured only by themselves.

Then you are mistaken. The only contribution you can make to your own healing is being mentally open to the healing provided by the universe (which includes your own body's immune system).

When Jesus said "Your faith has healed you" he did not mean that you have healed yourself through faith. He meant that because of your faith I will heal you by the word of God.

Also, what about a plastic surgeon redesigning the face of a person who had acid thrown on his face. Did he heal himself or did the plastic surgeon heal him from something that is worser than death.

About psychological problems you are a little right because unless you GET IT, understand it, psychological problems dont go away except through hypnosis which is a bad idea (Kindly read my next message for why it is a bad idea for psychological problems.)