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Part 6 Egypt and The Land of the Two Rivers
It is I, the son of Tholomo who speaks. “I am called Tholomo-met (son of Tholomo) as is our custom. I am the newly incarnated of the same soul who was the Tholomo who came to this planet from the distant star, Aryana”.
The line of Tholomo had continued. His later descendant was known as the son of Tholomo or Bar-tholomo and much later Bar-Tholomo-met or still later, “...mew”. In truth this was more of an honorific title or patronymic than a given name.
Note: It was and remains today an indicator of lineage much like the central European tradition of appending “ski” or “sky” or “skiy” (in the archaic, "son of) to a family name. When in Egypt this was amended, changed to read Tholomo-set in order that those in attendance would know to whom they addressed. But what about the land?
In those days, approximately 13,900 years before present, The final convulsion ending the series of ice ages had not yet occurred. The island nation of Atlantis was yet alive and thriving. In lower Egypt the great monument, the Sphinx, was yet to be covered over.
Note: Whoever may be interested in the location of Atlantis as it appears today may follow these coordinates: 32.321867, -27.936155 Here, in the mid-Atlantic, we find what was the main island. Do we recall the report of a large and fertile central valley surrounded by mountains? Here are the remains of those features. And just to the south are two others. See the report by Plato.
Note: The Atlans are known to have occupied other lands as well. Look to the west of Ireland. You will find an almost round submerged landmass. It was an island outpost of the Atlan peoples. For any who care to see this as it looks today it can be see at these coordinates. (52.606781, -14.227900) (Google Earth generated coordinates). There are very old maps in existence today which show this island when it was above water. It is also supported by certain Irish legends.
In addition to these two sets of islands the Atlans ventured to the mainland in two areas where they established permanent settlements. The first of these was in North Africa in certain coastal areas of present day southern Morocco. Lastly the Atlans established themselves in the protected and very lush mountain valleys of north-central Spain. In both those areas people of Atlan bloodlines remain today. The people of Atlantis were largely Rh negative. Look for this trait in the lands that I have mentioned.
The lands that would later be called Egypt were about to undergo dramatic changes. The sea was somewhat lower then. The great sands of the north were not yet in existence. Instead the lands on the north of the African continent were wet and green with all manner of life. In the regions just to the west of the present day Nile delta there did exist an inward expanse of shallow, warm, sea. In these protected waters the whales of the time found refuge for annual calving. And the great river? Before the crustal shift the Nile turned west in present day Sudan and found it’s way to the west emptying into the Atlantic ocean. Evidence of this can be found today by searching NASA space based radar images.
The group of travelers remains seated in the room within the garden as all this is shown to them by the means of memories directly impressed on their brains. They wait. When the moment is right the Lady speaks again. “Do you see the world, our world, as it was then? There were others but the two dominant cultures were the immigrants who traveled from the Aryana and Atlans star systems. It had been thus for a very long time during which the practice of inter-marrying between the two became a common practice. It was recognized, after all, that the future of the Earth would be better realized through the hybridization of peoples. This decision was made in the times previous to the great Earth changes.
Note: It is of interest to say here a little about the Atlans and the great pyramid(s) at (now) Giza. The three great pyramids were built by men who, some tens of thousands of years before, had migrated to this planet from a lesser star system in Orion. They called themselves the Atlans.* They were physically similar to Earth humans.* They were tall and slender, their skin tone was golden, their hair tended to be very light. In the main they were blue eyed. Unlike the Aryans they had little interest in joining with the early Earth humans of the time. They preferred isolation. With a few exceptions they lived in the Oceania areas of Earth before the flood but like so many others were later displaced. Arriving in Egypt when that land was only just changing from wet and green to deserts they lived. The pyramids, the three in Giza, were built to commemorate and remember their home world. They had hopes that someday after they returned to spirit they would be able to return. This explains all the little mysterious elements to the structure. For them it was a religious edifice much in function like the temples that came later.
Note: A little more here about elongated skulls of the Aryan peoples. It was this physical feature that resulted in the long lasting tradition of stylized head gear for Egyptian rulers. We see depictions of prominent women wearing these. They had the skull shapes that required such. It is also worthy to note here that these people came to be thought of as “gods”. This was because they possessed great knowledge and also because they were a gentle folk. They were widely respected. Even today we find traditions of wrapping the skulls of children as they grow so that the elongated skull shape will be apparent as adults. This was done in emulation of those leaders those “gods” that were so well loved. Today we find both the genuine and the man made and wonder. The answer is so very simple. The more pure blooded Aryan descendants were known to be long lived also. This is also known in our history.
In old Egypt we find three groups of human beings. The first were the native Earthlings who tended to be taller, more muscular, with dark skin tones. The second were the Aryans was, as we said, had arrived earlier from the high places in what is now Peru and Bolivia. Thirdly were the Atlans. These had migrated more by necessity now as their homelands had gone, sunk into the sea as was later recorded by Egyptian historians then recounted by Plato. All three groups blended to some degree. A new society was begun. There was partisanship and discrimination in many ways but none of this was in any negative way. It was simply a well ordered society. The centuries passed. Kingdoms came and disappeared and as they did the traditions of the day began to be less like old historical accounts, more like tales to be told to children. This led to the reshaping of the Sphinx. This was done by the descendants of the Atlans who had established a city state at the mouth of the Nile. Except in quiet temple rites the connection to Leo had been all but lost. It was thought that adapting that great monument in the image of the king would be better. As so it was done.
Note: This process of hybridization was the natural consequence of physical human beings moving to new environments. They endured modifications in order to conform to the new requirements. Thus we find in antiquity suggestions of very tall, very long lived, some with physical characteristics in variance with those of today such as elongated skulls and four fingers per hand. These sorts of things. We should note to that this will happen again when Earthlings move to new worlds. Consider Mars with it’s much lower gravity. How will we adapt to that? But adapt we will.
The Lady again speaks and a visual representation is seen by all. “As our story continues you will be shown, for your understanding, an event which was, then, of great importance. And now listen as Tholomo speaks.”
“It was our custom on the home planet and later to commemorate great transitional times or events in metal for all to see and benefit from. Even on our old world this was an ancient rite. Through such monuments we never forgot who we were. Here we used stone.
The Earth changes were yet to come when it was decided that we would build in the old ways a monument intended to preserve. Since the astrological age of Leo was near it was decided that a great figure in stone would be appropriate.” It was in Egypt that the Atlans and the Aryans met and intermingled for the first time in a new and permanent arrangement. These two, combined with those others who had come north when the river changed, constituted the genesis for what would be the first, the elder, the true ancient Egyptians.
Note: And so what is today called the Sphinx was created. It should be noted that in it’s original form it represented a crouching feline, watching over, protecting/consecrating the land. Much later when the body was covered deep in the sands the head was reshaped to represent a King of those times. this was changed to the image of a man (of some importance in those times). This is the reason the Sphinx’s head seems too small for the body as we see it today. It was originally the head of a lion sculpted, body and head, all in correct proportion.
Do we see the differences in wear, erosion, between the head and the body? This tells us when the modification was completed. It occurred within centuries of the post flood arrival of the Atlans
Tholomo continues: “The great statue was built to commemorate the beginning of the age of Leo. This was before the great flood which so dramatically marked the changing of the face of the Earth. It’s location was important because it was in the lands which had been decided on for another migration.” In those days it was an outpost only.
Note: In those days The plateau selected was high above the wetlands which had extended several hundreds of miles south from the sea (present day Mediterranean availing much and varied life homes in which they would prosper. But all this soon changed.
“The last of the floods had ceased. The redistribution of the lands and waters had stopped. A new time of often severe volcanism began. The world was again in equilibrium. And the great statue remained whole and glistening the new suns of a much drier land. Later when the rich soils were replaced by sands it was buried as the winds came and went through the centuries.
But the people, the Aryans and the Atlans, endured.
Again Tholomo-met speaks. “I Tholomo-met, descendant of Tholomo the traveler, record the beginnings of this new time of the world. We have found our homes in this land of changes. We have arrived. The seas of turmoil, subsiding now, have brought us. The river that existed before the great Nile was less in stature. As a result of the changes which included the redirecting of the Nile to the south, this river now was huge. It swept away the earlier city of the new peoples leaving only traces. This is the way it was in those days. The symbol of our new society, it’s foundational expression, is the boat on the waters of life. We are the boatmen who prevailed. We were carried here and when we leave to return to spirit it will be also a water conveyance which will carry our spirits on the return journey to the lands of the Gods.
Tholomo-met continues by including a short tale, one which we find irresistible. We have told of the sacred nature of the great river and the boats which ply her waters. There is more though. In the earliest times our ancestors came here using the very ancient aerial vessels for transport. These were the very same gravity powered craft that were carried here in the ethereal so long ago. There are two places where they may yet be seen. The first is on our old Moon station. The second is in India. Both are quite hidden even to those who unknowingly approach. But in Egypt it was the boat that substituted the aerial craft and it was the great river which now paralleled the ancient memories of our migration from Aryana. And so. The river and the boat traditions are, in reality, metaphors for we Aryans. Of all this only tales are left. Even the priests in Plato’s time, with all their records, had forgotten. “I, Tholomo-met say further that it is this very old truth which exists in the form of boats secreted away in hidden temples or near to the tombs of the great ones. When such a boat is seen by us today we may rightly understand that it is a representation of our original migration and the river, the Nile? She is the pathway through the heavens. It is all there for those who have eyes to see.”
Note: Here the first of the peoples who would become known as the Egyptians tell of their memories of the highlands of present day Peru although they knew it not for certain. And of their true origins? The priests of even today know the truth but only in much fragmented tales. This knowledge is held close as it is thought to conflict with the culture of the present.
“Here we settled, integrating, as we did with the others, our brothers and sisters who we called the Atlans, the sea peoples. Our two cultures blended. A new world, signified and remembered by the symbol of the great stone Leo, remains even today.
Note: It was these two, in cooperation, which also built the halls of memories which are only partially known but never yet entered. The times of the next phase of Leo will close the circle of this story.
Note: The reader will perhaps understand the great cycles of the Earth which begin then complete some 26,000 years later. Do we see how this also relates to the study of the stars?
Again the Lady speaks: “Return now to the present. You will be shown a brief history of those people, those new people, the Egyptians as they came to be called as they began a new migration.”
As we watch we see, through a moving vision impressed on our minds, a group, a large group of those who left Egypt and traveled east. Into harsh lands they moved, often by night under the stars. Slowly they progressed. Their journey into the unknown would find them stopping here and there leaving small settlements in their wake. Through the lands of today’s Arab world they went. Finally they stopped and stayed in a land which was to be their permanent home. In Todays Iraq they settled between the two rivers.
This, for those who love history, was the series of events which are well recorded today. These people brought with them the skills which had originated in Atlantis. It was the arrival of these peoples in (Iraq) which explains the sudden emergence of the city state, of previously unknown animal husbandry and agricultural methods. The more primitive, men of the area lacked these. The Atlantian refugees brought these in the form of gifts, with them. In the next story part a little more will be said about this series of events. It is spoken of now because although our history records these events in anthropological context they lack knowledge of the fact of the migration of the Atlantians.
There will be a further point here to make. In this part we have read of the migration of a group of people who, leaving Egypt, are said to have “wandered in the wilderness” for a long time. We will also discover a tale, one of a group of “new people” who, in today’s southern Iraq, constructed for themselves a garden in which they lived for a time before emerging out and combining with the earlier peoples of the area. These older folk called themselves the People of Nod.
For those who wish to consider these tales we might remind them of their existence in our own religious lore.
At this point the Lady bids us rest.
To be continued...
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In the next part which is almost ready we will watch as the travelers are treated to a recollection of the journey, the migration, long before. And then we will shift forward just a bit and watch as our newly arrived kinfolk range about the Earth beginning their involvement. In our terms we might call these times of settling in. It is not easy to write of those times because the events of several tens of thousands of years on Earth will be compressed into just a few pages. But we will try...
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Part 7 A Journey Recounted
As our story continues we will read of the earlier travels in the world of the Aryan peoples. Our earliest attempts to survey the earth, to find and catalog both animal and plant forms, many later to be enhanced, combined and derived from, made anew through interbreeding with those which we brought from our old world. Of these we had plenty in reserve, those yet waiting (in sleep deep) on the moon station for transferal, transplantation. That journey of discovery was about to begin.
Our story continues now with a review of the tale of the migration and of the peoples who came to these lands.
The Lady assembles we, the travelers of today, in the garden where she bids us be at our ease… prepare for a journey, a very special excursion into more detailed accounts of the times past.
The Lady speaks: “We have placed our conveyance, the (magical) carpet, on the lawn before the (Healing Room) garden retreat structure that we all know so well. I ask you now. Be seated and make ready.”
We happily gather, returning from other points in the garden landscape, to the lawn and find that as we step onto it the carpet it grows larger so that there is always adequate space for each of us.
The Lady speaks again: “Come and join us also you, our companions of the animal kingdom. Your essential role of the manifestation of this, our kingdom in nature, is not forgotten. You will travel with us and delight in the rediscovery of the lands of your ancient kin.” At this prompt, led by Lady Pumpkin, even so in some anticipation. they carefully step onto the carpet We wait.
The Lady rises slightly from the ground. Her usually subdued inner light grows now. Soon it is as if she is glowing in a way which reminds us of stories of the Heart of our star, the sun. We wait.
She turns her gaze back at us and smiles as if to say: “I have seen your thoughts. We will now leave.” And at that and with a very slight vibration the carpet raises from the ground. We see this or rather sense it but there is no sensation of velocity, speed. There is only a strangely changing perception that we share. Our manner of apprehending the worlds around us has been modified. The others in our party seem asleep. Their eyes are closed but this is because they are not being used. We, each and all of us, are now gazing on the higher worlds through our spiritual eyes. Yes, the animals too. They have also been so endowed. Never doubt this. They, too, are children of the creator. We continue now.
Into our dreams comes the voice of the Lady again: “We are embarked on a journey of remembrances. Soon we will emerge from the higher astral, returning to the ethereal near to the star Aryana and it’s companion worlds. Yes. They remain even today.
A moment later it was so. We felt a shifting of our vibrations but no sense of anxiety. No. It was more like we were in a long lost but familiar place… again.
The Lady speaks: “Here we see a dim star or rather one that is less bright than our own. It is vital yet, producing life, but this, in it’s waning times. These worlds travel ‘round in their orbits, closer now than before. They begin to grow less hospitable to those forms that remain. These are few. Of them we find the more hardy plants and insects of the deep places in the ground. But fear for them not at all. Theirs is a caretaker role, watched by their own guides. They are not forgotten. And as she speaks she points her hand upward to a light in the heavens above. As we look in wonder a window seems to open and within an angel appears. The Lady greets him as kin. No words are exchanged. We know who and why he is. His is the final duty to a dying world. He will be there when the last soul returns upward to the ethereal. Yes. Insects and plants have souls as do the bits of matter well call elemental. A grain of sand has a soul.
As they rise up they are carefully gathered to the bosom which waits. Then, for them, a sleep and a long wait but eventually a new life elsewhere.
Note: To the rules of these divided worlds even the angels are subject. Although on their own plane they are not so, here in the created worlds they are both male and female. Here is the interesting part. Females are creative. Males are destructive. And what do we find between them, at the, so oft called, Lagrange points? Here is the stability which is the goal of creation. Thus, in our story, when we find a female angel she will be concerned with expansion, renewal. When we find a male angel his center of responsibility will be that of dissolution (of forms).
The Lady addresses our animal companions now. “Do you see? Can you remember? Reach deep into your memories and discover a long lost connection to this world. Here your ancestors lived and made their homes. They were closely related to those who would be later known as mammals on the Earth. So closely related they were that interbreeding was often possible. As you search and wonder see also that when the human travelers arrived they had brought with them the seeds of both plant and animal life from this planet, Aryan (daughter of the star Aryana). It is true for you, too, are of this place. You are not forgotten. Sleep now in blessings deep…” And with this the animals, one by one, closed their eyes and rested. Content… in their belonging.
We ask in thought: “If this is the way then what of the planet itself, the stones and soils, the metallic remains from eons ago?” The Lady has already begun to answer. “These will remain until the day when they return to the waiting star which, dim as it is, has yet the ability to assimilate and renew. At that time all that remains of the lower forms will be sent, in a moment of brilliance, outward to begin long journeys which will end with inclusion within the bodies of other worlds. This is their destiny which, like ours, will not be denied.”
The Lady speaks to us again. “Rest now as the carpet carries you further back in time. Watch and see a memory of the time when those ancient ones were preparing to leave their home world forever. Their journey to the Earth will soon begin.”
At this we raise our attentiveness and watch as we see great ships rising above the surface of the world, Aryana. But there are two groups. The many are in the ships which are material, made of the stuff of the lower world. The few are not so. They have joined us in the ethereal and as we watch they pass us quickly. They do not notice us at all and we are reminded that this is but a memory of events past. As we continue to watch they move in the direction of the ethereal star, their star, their sun (god) within which has been made ready a portal the purpose of which is to raise them up out of the ethereal and into the higher astral plane which will then serve as their medium of travel. And what would have otherwise taken thousands of years is now made possible in mere moments. And as we watch we see them move out of our sight.
Note: For those who are interested there are tie ins here with the Indian Hindu culture. They speak with authority about the very same aerial vessels that were produced by those migrants in our story. As our travelers looked throughout the world they saw, in particular, the potential of what would long later become India. Here, the energies of the mother highlands to the north, through the great river the Ganges, would maternalize and create a new people. This is why that river is so revered today. It truly was the course of the mother. This part is later in our story though.
“Do you see?” said the Lady. “This was both the end and the beginning for them.” And as we begin to understand we find ourselves moving quickly away. We are returning to our familiar planet, our home world, the Earth. But we are yet in the spiritual.
Many long centuries have passed during which our travelers moved about their new planetary home, the Earth. In order to adapt to the physical planet many changes were necessary. And so they would descend a few at a time, to the lower ethereal bordering the physical where they would, for short periods, take up physical forms… This process continued for a very long time. They discovered the highlands, the arid reaches, the cold and thinner airs of the mountains in various places on Earth. These they would be most comfortable in. To those places they went. The larger part of the new people chose the (present) Andes mountains. These were more remote and afforded a greater degree of safety. In those days there were yet large animals on the Earth to be reckoned with. Among them were the most feared, the large flightless birds which, with powerful legs, ran quickly. But unlike those of today in those days they were carnivorous. Here was the danger. And there were others as well but most of these were less ambulatory, less threatening.
And now the time of exploration began in earnest. The travelers had used large ships made of ethereal matter for the long journey to Earth. Within these they were held secure. By using these they were able to bring with them a limited assortment of essential materials. After arrival all of these were left in a secure place on the moon.
Note: Accounts of these ships explain the events of the present. Do we not hear of so called “flying saucers” which accelerate quickly only to suddenly disappear as we gaze at them? This vanishing is no more than their transitioning from the physical to the ethereal. And why do they do this? Because of the speed limit of the physical. In the lower spiritual worlds the speed of light is easily surpassed. The subtle (spiritual worlds) are not subject to the rules of third dimension (physical) physics.
Note: The remains of this “lunar base of operations” can yet be seen. It will appear to be a huge spaceship(s) within which will be found the remains of collections of things, plant and animal and even metallic. Most of these had been brought to the Earth after, like the people themselves, were reduced, transformed back to the physical. This was accomplished with the help of their angel companion (called) Atar, he who guided, higher to lower.
And so it was that in a certain year the first of the physical settlements high in the mountains of (now) South America was established. All was well.
Note: The remains of these can yet be seen by the traveler who has eyes to understand what they really are. The early arrivals lacked the more complex resources and so built using native stone. They selected andesite (our term) for it’s strength and ability to endure. The visitor to these places today will see the very accurately milled stonework. With interlocking segments against the frequent earthquakes of the times… they remain now but somewhat in disarray. Their story can be told another time. Suffice to say this destructive event was not due to natural but resulted from a conflict between later peoples who sought supremacy through the elimination of that which came before. This… is a very human trait.
It is a truth that as spiritual beings descend that, after a time, they will tend to succumb to the lesser. Here is a great lesson. At this point the element of wisdom is essential. And here we find a path to resurrection. Think of this today as we read of master souls who interact with the Earth. They, too, are subject to the law.
Note: At this point we remind the reader of the story (told in metaphor) of the time when the great master Jesus went into the desert. His purpose was to meet and overcome lower adversity. With great struggle he succeeded and became the representative of the Christ on Earth. But this, the story of who the Christ really is, is held for another time.
We later day travelers noted all this and wondered that so many things could have happened of which we were a part of but without any historical records. Why, we wondered. And later we were to receive our answers. But now the Lady was about to speak again. “Listen to Tholomo as he tells the tale of our beginnings on Earth.”
Now the words of the leader of those times, Tholomo, speaks to us across the vastness of (physical) time. We hear the words directly in our minds. It is, in reality, a telepathic connection to the Earth’s great Hall of Records which exists in the higher astral plane. As we sit and wait, it continues.
We travelers, yet seated in comfort on the carpet, now see that the purpose of the journey has reached it’s conclusion. As we gaze forward into time we become aware of ourselves as being directly descended from those times. Yes. This is the reason we feel so connected, a part of. It is our story after all. We, each of us on Earth today, is a combination of the evolutionary processes of the Earth and those of other worlds. We are hybrids but we are human souls.
As was spoken of before the new people of this Earth moved about as they found those areas which afforded them the conditions which would allow convenience and progress. This ideal was that which was the cause of earlier migrations such as the one most notably spoken of, the out of Africa story. Much more can be said about this in a later effort. Consider one thing. Our early ancestors began their Earth sojourn in South America. The peoples of today will recall, in legends, the “gods” that arrived one day to care for them. Much later the same sorts of things happened in Africa but because those lands were connected to (now) Asia, a more dramatic movement of peoples began. To the north and east they headed, seeking their fortunes. Ever moving, ever achieving, ever growing, advancing. It is this later time that is remembered in our religions today. We, through our religions, do not recall the South American times simply because that continent is isolated from the rest of the world.
Our history, therefore, seems to have begun in the middle east regions. Stories of “men of renown” exist today but of what cultures do or did they derive? It is interesting to note that several centers of humanity were established in those early days. Geography had a lot to do with shaping the resultant religions. And so today we find the so called “western worlds” have attachments to the stories originating from the middle east. Here we find our authority for interactions with “God”. But in other areas the same thing was happening. For instance in the Indus Valley a people found new beginnings too. These are also remembered in the same way. Finding growth to maturity the peoples of the Indian sub-continent (and also those of the high places such as Tibet) found “God” too but in slightly differing ways. Of these various stories there is no shortage of information available in today’s world. Of their common origins though… much is very arcane and has been omitted.
The travelers arrive back in the garden. The Lady speaks again: “Do you begin to better understand your world? In the next part we will follow as the pioneers travel this planet seeking opportunities for expansion. They did not think of themselves as conquerors. No. They loved and had the highest regard for all they encountered. Their purpose was tied to the original mandate told by those great ones who are responsible for the distribution of “life” throughout the galaxy.” Nothing less.
In the following parts we will explore these in more detail. We will also discover, in more detail, the involvement of the Angels of God.
There is another story which has it’s origins here. Some of these interstellar migrants, while at the moon base of operations, chose to instead of descending to the Earth, move to Mars. Because they were more comfortable with the thinner airs and lower temperatures this seemed to them a desirable choice. And they were given to know of an earlier migration, one that thrived there, long before. Their story will perhaps be told but not as a part of this effort.
in the next part we will continue our magical carpet excursion and tour the world of those times. It will be called: Lands of Wonder
Blessings to us all...
To be continued.
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Females are the creators. Males are the destroyers. Together they power the engines of the spiritual evolution which is the essence, that which we call growth.
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Unfortunately so often it is so. But it shouldn't be. If God created us as "similar to Him", there is no place for beings to be "destroyers". "Protectors", yes. Together with the females, males create families which they have to care for. The impetus of destruction comes from the energy of the darkness, ruled by the "master of the darkness". And this is the challenge number one we must be prepared to fight against. And win, obviously.
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11-08-2023, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cargil48
Unfortunately so often it is so. But it shouldn't be. If God created us as "similar to Him", there is no place for beings to be "destroyers". "Protectors", yes.
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With respect to your statement I will suggest that the roles of male and female in the human experience, as you outline, is correct. I agree.
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Females are the creators. Males are the destroyers. Together they power the engines of the spiritual evolution which is the essence, that which we call growth.
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In my statement I use "male and female" as a metaphor meant to define the separated, dual, divided nature of that which is created as opposed to that which is "un-created". It refers to the inevitable "creation followed by destruction" which is the essential cyclic nature of our home, the created universe.
The "un-created" is that high spiritual landscape which existed before the creation. It is, quite literally, the body of manifestation of God. Here, not in the lower created worlds is where we will find the supreme, timeless God. Here is unity sublime.
Note: "Eternal" does not mean the endless succession of time. "Eternal" means a realm free of time altogether. This means a realm which has no lower spiritual or physical dimensions. A realm such as the un-created. God is timeless. "Before Abraham was, I am" is a quote which applies.
In my metaphor I use "male and female" in a very broad sense. Included are all the oppositional forces found in nature. These, in truth, do come into being, move about and then return to their energetic equivalents which are near to the boundaries of the lower spiritual planes which support us all. Think here of Mature stars and equally mature black holes. These are the, as yet, unrealized gateways to the higher, timeless, realms.
Only when they ultimately return to the un-created do "male and female" reunite with God. But to pass through that boundary their forms must be destroyed or un-created.
If you will allow I will respond briefly to your statement regarding the likeness of we humans to God. "Made in His image" I think applies. This is a very complex topic which is, I will suggest, outside the scope of my story in which it is only hinted at. It is related to the idea of the existence of high spiritual beings, high yet subordinate to the ultimate God, who live and work within the created universe. And, since that which is created is essentially divided, separated from God, they, too, are divided, have counterparts. This complex topic delves into the fact of the existence of the high spiritual beings in roles which we call "Light and Dark". This, too, is a very necessary aspect of the created universe. One which, in the end of time, will be resolved through the destruction of forms, reunited with the Father.
Note: All of the complexity of the created universe has one singular purpose. It exists in order that created matter, all matter including we humans) will have the means of progressing through hard experience and finally winning through to be rejoined with God the Father. That is the goal, the only one. This statement is directly related with the essential activity of deity which is... to "express".
In the end the Darkness and the Light and the great ones who master them, when the universe and it's lower heavens reach their ending their forms will be destroyed, so that they can return to the un-created. And now "male and female" will be finally resolved.
God is formless but, so long as the created endures, does have a body of manifestation. It is the entirety of the universe and all that is in it both lower spiritual heavens and physical.
I did err in the wording of my story. I will try to do better.
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11-08-2023, 08:46 AM
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No need to do better you did just fine,
A good read again
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Our story will very soon continue with another interlude. In it we will visit Aryana and examine one of the last of the cities which had existed on that dying world. As we read of descriptive memories we perhaps will think, too, of the now ancient stoneworks in the high places of Peru. For they were modeled on those which are no more.
Through this we will hopefully realize that the human soul, no matter the form in which it incarnates, carries with it the yearnings, life to life, that we know as tradition. It is hoped that a sympathetic parallel will form a link for us. Can we send our minds to another time? What will we learn? Supposing we find answers for questions that have yet to be asked?
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Look forward to reading it
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