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07-09-2020, 09:40 PM
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Truths in Buddhism
Found, courtesy markings:
"All Buddhas depend on two truths
In order to preach the Dharma to sentient beings.
The first is the worldly mundane truth.
The second is the truth of supreme meaning.
If one is not able to know
The distinction between the two truths (my emphasis)
One cannot know the true meaning
Of the profound Buddha Dharma."
from the Mulamadhyamakakarika Chapt 24 Vers 8 and 9
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07-09-2020, 09:41 PM
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Further commentary from markings:
The two Truths were then followed by a Third Truth which states that the Two Truths are one and the same. The two Truths are different viewpoints of one and the same thing.
I think we can all agree that if we change our fundamental viewpoint we may see things differently even when looking at the same thing.
The two Truths are not contradicting but complement each other.
However, and that is a most important thing. When something is said we need to know from viewpoint it was said, otherwise it becomes nonsense.
As an example let's take this line from the Dao Te Ching:
"The sage, by doing nothing gets everything done."
From a worldly viewpoint (physical, intellectual) that is clearly nonsense.
From a celestial viewpoint (mental, spiritual) it is different. By doing nothing in the mental, spiritual realm, procrastination, self-criticism, goal orientated thinking, upholding resentments, old hurts, prejudices, not seeking even enlightenment, but moving above these things, he gets everything done that needs to be done in the worldly realm.
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07-09-2020, 09:44 PM
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Commentary from iamthat:
Another possibility is that the sage continues to act, doing whatever is required, but always knowing that he or she is not the doer.
In this context, doing nothing does not mean taking no action; instead it indicates that all action is effortless.
Peace
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08-09-2020, 11:01 PM
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Joe walks into a room, has a Joe experience and a Joe viewpoint.
Mary walks into a room has a Mary experience and Mary viewpoint.
A liberated person walks into a room and has an experience with no particular viewpoint.
Last edited by Phaelyn : 09-09-2020 at 03:45 AM.
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21-10-2020, 03:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janielee
Commentary from iamthat:
Another possibility is that the sage continues to act, doing whatever is required, but always knowing that he or she is not the doer.
In this context, doing nothing does not mean taking no action; instead it indicates that all action is effortless.
Peace
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The above is a concept for doing things/getting things done by intuition alone as opposed to intellectually or over thinking.
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21-10-2020, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeS80
The above is a concept for doing things/getting things done by intuition alone as opposed to intellectually or over thinking.
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But can ' Intuition ' alone be trusted, I personally don't think so through experience....
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21-10-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
But can ' Intuition ' alone be trusted, I personally don't think so through experience....
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Then it is not intuition, if you can't trust it. It is something you think is intuition, but is not intuition.
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21-10-2020, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sky123
But can ' Intuition ' alone be trusted, I personally don't think so through experience....
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It depends, of course, on how one defines "intuition" but I trust it unquestionably.
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21-10-2020, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeS80
Then it is not intuition, if you can't trust it. It is something you think is intuition, but is not intuition.
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What is ' Intuition ' that you can trust ?
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21-10-2020, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Still_Waters
It depends, of course, on how one defines "intuition" but I trust it unquestionably.
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Yes ' Intuition ' does seem to have multiple definitions but so does ' Trust '
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