Cold hearted Spirit Masters.

I have read a lot of NDEs. Sometimes they have horrific injuries - I mean horrific, and to me - yeah heaven is lovely - but the Spirit Masters ...are cold.

Like they are using them to send a message - while the poor experiencer is in hospital for six months with splints in his leg etc.

They also talk in disparaging terms about humans. We get it wrong a lot.

Heck yeah the world is a mess, but life can hurt - in the spirit world nobody can hear you scream.

They seem to trivialize life and pain and trauma.

Some masters talk about humans wiping themselves out. Like its a lunch order.

They seem so darn pious and superior.

My 2 cents.

[wolfgaze]

Hmmm I don't recall coming across these types of accounts when I was researching NDE's/Thanatology...

What exactly do you mean by 'Spirit Masters'? Is this in reference to the 'light being' that is usually present during what is described as a 'life review'?

Originally Posted by wolfgaze

Hmmm I don't recall coming across these types of accounts when I was researching NDE's/Thanatology...

What exactly do you mean by 'Spirit Masters'? Is this in reference to the 'light being' that is usually present during what is described as a 'life review'?

Yeah there is usually a council of elders.

They often say 'You have to go back, its not your time'

Another favorite is 'We don't make mistakes'.

Oh give me a break.

[Tobi]

Spirit-Masters? Who are they? Sometimes it is deceased loved ones of the NDE-er who say such things, not some jumped-up heirarchical Beings.

But even so, when a person glimpses/senses "Heaven" they almost always do not want to come back. But what if they have to -to fulfil their life purpose? It's a bit like waking up in the morning. I know I don't want to. Thank goodness for alarm clocks or I would stay there.
Maybe the 'voices'....'Beings'.....instructions...whatever, may sound cold but it isn't really meant that way? But it has to be firm in a sense, or that person would not wish to return. A bit like alarm clocks....

I know, in my own way. I have a sweet connection with a loved one who has passed. Most times we have a lovely connection heart-to-heart. Then there are some times I appear to be quite shut out. My instincts are telling me that apart from what they have to do there, I also have to live life down here -not in a half-world. Sometimes I have to go away and get down to my ordinary life in my own way. (Monday-morning-feeling! LOL!)

I am an independent spirit. I am immortal. I don't have to play by anyone else's game.

I have read about Spirit Masters.

[Jenny Crow]

Originally Posted by Burntfruit

I am an independent spirit. I am immortal. I don't have to play by anyone else's game.

I have read about Spirit Masters.

Good for you, and no you don't have to play by anyone else's game - that's called independence. And I suppose you're talking about those spirits who are supposed to live in the fifth dimension.

By reading your posts, though, I'm wondering if perhaps those Spirit Masters will reckon you need an "attitude adjustment"

Originally Posted by Jenny Crow

Good for you, and no you don't have to play by anyone else's game - that's called independence. And I suppose you're talking about those spirits who are supposed to live in the fifth dimension.

By reading your posts, though, I'm wondering if perhaps those Spirit Masters will reckon you need an "attitude adjustment"

haha I like that - attitude adjustment

(re. I regret my earlier comment - makes me sound like a complete douchebag.)

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Burntfruit

Some masters talk about humans wiping themselves out. Like its a lunch order.

They seem so ****ing pious and superior.

My 2 cents.

My aren't we feeling important. Do you have any idea how many species are in just this universe?

How much care did you expend on all those species that have gone extinct recently due to mankind's wrecking of the environment?

Originally Posted by wstein

My aren't we feeling important. Do you have any idea how many species are in just this universe?

How much care did you expend on all those species that have gone extinct recently due to mankind's wrecking of the environment?

Its not my fault.

Am I to blame for a psychotic corporation who have brainwashed their employees for pumping waste liquid in the oceans.

Its a bit like Solyent Green. We meekly eat all in the supermarket, while the big companies have caused chaos in the ecosystem

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Burntfruit

Its not my fault.

perhaps the 'Spirit Masters' are saying the same thing ...