Meditation, some answers

[Gem]

Originally Posted by iamthat

Actually it is constant and unchanging.

To say that the inner Sound "is produced within the ear by minute movements within the internal hearing organs and/or nerves" is frankly laughable to those who practice Nada Yoga and are able to hear these inner Sounds. Perhaps you have not experienced the depths of Nada Yoga.

Peace

I'm pretty sure it has the quality of change. I just assume it's a inner ear thing because it's plausible that movements inside the ear stimulates auditory nerves. However, that is still story apart from the actuality of experience. The sound is there without a story and it's good meditatively because it is a very subtle object. People want to dress it up in spiritual robes, but I'm more old jeans and T's.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by zinnat

No Gem,
it is not an imagination. That really happens and it has nothing to do with any minute movements inside earing mechanism. it resonates in the mind only, not
in ears.
As a thumb rule, I do not say anything such which i have not experienced in person. Yes, i sometime take outside help in doing explanation but only when i am absolutely sure of that.

with love,
sanjay

In my early meditations I would feel movements, waves, tingles, rushes, and other remarkable feelings, and mind would fabricate like 'oh this the energy' or 'that must be the throat chakra' or 'The third eye is merging with the crown' and so on, etc. But I realised the story made it seem like the remarkable feeling was important and more relevant than other more common feelings, and my mind would chase the 'special feeling' through generating desire, so I withdrew my beliefs in these 'conceptualisations'. Then it was knowing, 'Feels like this'. No story. In a spiritual thread the story will get wilder and more fascinating and becomes extremely alluring because there are motives we can only know of ourselves going on here, and we might notice how they enthrall the mind, but generally speaking, I think that's more likely to be overlooked as the mind gets too excited to notice the subtleties.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Ya know, it is not so much as to say 'changing'...but rather it is layered...harmonies upon harmonies.

Nice description Layers of sound works well.

might seem to be changing, yes.

It changes as you experience it, as all experience does.

[A human Being]

Funnily enough, in the last week or so I've noticed a shrill, faint sort of ringing sound from time to time when I've been meditating or going to sleep - could this be what you're talking about?

[Gem]

Originally Posted by A human Being

Funnily enough, in the last week or so I've noticed a shrill, faint sort of ringing sound from time to time when I've been meditating or going to sleep - could this be what you're talking about?

Yea, the sound you hear is the only one you can listen to .

[A human Being]

Originally Posted by Gem

Yea, the sound you hear is the only one you can listen to .

Thanks for that

[Miss Hepburn]

The Sound Current....as I always ask when speaking - has anyone been away of the clock ticking?
Lol - No one ever has been.
Now they can't NOT hear it...very funny.
And they knew it was always there.
(Once faint, faint no longer!!!!) Cute.

[Still_Waters]

QUOTE 336 EXCERPT:

Originally Posted by iamthat

Firstly the Inner Sound current or Nada or Shabd is not heard in the mind - its origin is beyond thought.

QUOTE 338 EXCERPT:

Originally Posted by iamthat

To say that the inner Sound "is produced within the ear by minute movements within the internal hearing organs and/or nerves" is frankly laughable to those who practice Nada Yoga and are able to hear these inner Sounds.

Having practiced Nada Yoga for years, I really appreciate your comments here.

The sound does indeed seem to be "beyond thought", as you duly indicated.

[Unseeking Seeker]

The inner sound current just is, as is our breath. Just the way we do not notice our breath, when our attention is elsewhere, same applies for the sound current.

Let’s stir it up a bit though! If we recognise the sound current as an attribute of inner polarity of hearing, it follows to reason* (*foot in mouth! we don’t need reason) that each of of our other externalised senses, has an inner polarity as well. Hmm ... the fragrance divine, mingled with magnetic touch, heightened by soma nectar ... I’ll stop short for sense of sight, for those more advanced to elucidate ... self-luminescent soft white light, yes, although sporadic.

The plot thickens!

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Gem

I'm pretty sure it has the quality of change. I just assume it's a inner ear thing because it's plausible that movements inside the ear stimulates auditory nerves. However, that is still story apart from the actuality of experience. The sound is there without a story and it's good meditatively because it is a very subtle object. People want to dress it up in spiritual robes, but I'm more old jeans and T's.

Perhaps what changes is how we experience the inner Sound as we go deeper into it. From my own experience, I first heard it as similar to distant rolling thunder during an initiation through shaktipat. This was in the right side of the head, and for the first year it was subtle. Indeed, part of me was a bit disappointed - I had expected more from meditation on the inner Sound.

As I learned to sit for longer periods the mind would become quieter and the Sound became louder. And on rare occasions I experienced the Sound as vibrations which filled the body to the point of overwhelming bliss. And I would see brilliant white light. Which is why I have to dismiss the idea that the Sound is just movements in the ear stimulating the auditory nerves.

Nowadays, forty years on, the Sound is still very loud and I still see brilliant Light within, every day. This is more than just dressing it up in spiritual robes.

Peace