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Originally Posted by MattMVS7
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Hi MATT.
I'm sorry for much sufferings you went/going through. And for a Hedonist, it is such a Hell where they seek only pleasure but receive only pain particularly in this world.
It's a nice philosophy I read. Even, I like being OPEN to people by sharing "what they are really seeking". It bonds people when they share what they really think, rather than hiding/testing/playing.
Anyways.. Now, I have few questions and I share those here. Please deeply think about those.
Being a Hedonist is not a problem. But without knowing what Earth/Heaven is and seeking those in one's own way of thought, is the wrong perception of reality.
About Earth, as you said I agree that "It's worse/bad/sufferings/etc..". Absolutely. There is no doubt about it. But what About Heaven? In the way of Hedonist, yes, you can attain the Best bliss in that "form", where there is no sufferings there. BUT, a big BUT, just think whether "it" will last long in an "Hedonist" form??? What if in time you are thrown away from there? What if the girls there reject to spend time with you when time comes, and go to pleasure some other person?
I goggled the meaning of "hedonism" and learned that it is a kind of Sensual or Psychological pleasure seeking philosophy.
If you are seeking the 'pleasure' in 'this' form, you might reach only "Garden of Eden" and not the Heaven itself. Garden of Eden and other "ONLY PLEASURE" providing worlds absolutely lasts-long. But it will also come to an end, or throw you away in TIME (like Scrat of Ice-age going for nuts). Heaven is ever-lasting but not the "Garden of Eden" or other places. Dropping away from "Garden of Eden or other" too brings pain/sufferings. Losing the Highest Bliss one seeked brings Highest Pain one doesn't felt before.
So, it's all about in what form you seek the "BLISS". Bliss in form of Hedonism, or in any MOVEMENT, comes to an end. It may long-lasting comparing to others but still in end. Ever-lasting Heaven is like Empyrean. One doesn't move intentionally. Just flow in the presence of GOD. And enjoy that Highest BLISS.
Even I'm not against anything. Being selfish/egoistic is fine too. BUT the BORDER/Boundary matters.
If a person is too selfish only to look after him, then increase the boundary to parents,spouse,son/daughter.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the surroundings.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the clan/class.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the animals.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the birds.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the "other Living Beings".
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the city.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the state.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the Country.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the World.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the Other Physical worlds.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the Angels.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the Demons.
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the "Whole Psychological/spiritual worlds".
If increased to that, then not stop there, increase it to the "GOD".
That's it. Then the selfish attains the 'true self' in form of being selfish too.
Whatever one is, it's not of a problem. But how they perceive 'themselves', how they understand the nature of it, by understanding their nature how they make their own path without affecting/disturbing the nature, matters a lot. Or else, it's like swimming in the Muddy-water 'thinking' it is THE OCEAN. And so, at times, there comes many messengers/Son/Sages/etc.. in 'many different words' 'many religions' to make it suitable for the person at those times.
So, what kind of Bliss you seek for? In movement which will end in time, or Unmoving FLOW which is ETERNAL?
Merry Christmas.