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Old 18-10-2019, 06:17 PM
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Today Divine Love as much as I can know(Heart Know) it
is my starting point.

Scripture: Love God with all your Heart Mind and Soul and your
neighbor as yourself.

I always like to consider the woman caught in adultery and her
punishment by law should have been death.
Jesus Christ however did not condemn her.
Surely this is an act of Love and Grace.

I mainly see the New overrides the Old and I still
have to weigh it against my own Heart and understand
I am still learning how to Love and try to stay teachable.
The Old Testament foreshadowed Jesus.
Jesus fulfilled the Law.

Both are interconnected.
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Old 18-10-2019, 06:23 PM
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' I always like to consider the woman caught in adultery and her
punishment by law should have been death.'

Should have been death, why?
And what about the Man?
Not necessarily.

Example: David & Bathsheba.

The application of the Law depended on the circumstances. In some cases, nothing and on the other extreme....
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Old 18-10-2019, 08:58 PM
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Not necessarily.

Example: David & Bathsheba.

The application of the Law depended on the circumstances. In some cases, nothing and on the other extreme....

today respect for the law is under threat, yet overbearing law is unbearable. this calls for wisdom, which is the higher law that people forget
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Old 19-10-2019, 06:40 AM
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today respect for the law is under threat, yet overbearing law is unbearable. this calls for wisdom, which is the higher law that people forget


What law or higher law are we talking about?
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.

'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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Old 19-10-2019, 06:44 AM
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' I always like to consider the woman caught in adultery and her
punishment by law should have been death.'

Should have been death, why?
And what about the Man?

According to the law of the Jews in that day.

Maybe it was not with a Man. The writings do not say.
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Old 19-10-2019, 06:50 AM
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The Old Testament foreshadowed Jesus.
Jesus fulfilled the Law.

Both are interconnected.

Interconnect how you like. No words from a book will ever override
what I know and is communicated to and through the Heart.
I have already been circumcised in the Heart.

P.S. Sometimes words from a book cut to the Heart sometimes not.
I do enjoy many psalms and the Song of Solomon, and many stories have valuable teachings.
The Holy Spirit of God working in my Life on a daily basis from God the Father by the Living Christ
is my main concern.
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:37 AM
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According to the law of the Jews in that day.

Maybe it was not with a Man. The writings do not say.




Adultery
/əˈdʌlt(ə)ri/
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.


More Barbaric Teachings which unfortunately are still followed in some Religions....
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:57 AM
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Aldutery.

'According to the Bible, adultery is a serious sin. The Ten Commandments forbid it, and Leviticus and Deuteronomy say that couples who commit adultery must die. The prophets condemn adulterous men and women, the book of Proverbs warns against adultery, and the New Testament writers view adultery as sinful.

But on closer examination, the definition of adultery in much of the Hebrew Bible is one-sided. Men did not have to be faithful to one woman. They could have more than one wife (Deut 21:15), and even for married men, sleeping with unmarried or unbetrothed women did not count as adultery (Exod 22:16-17, Deut 22:28-29). Only men who slept with another man’s wife or fiancée could be punished for adultery, along with the woman concerned (Deut 22:22-26). But a woman had to be faithful to her husband alone and was expected to be a virgin until she married (Deut 22:13-21). This points to a society that valued men above women, in which men had social and political power and women’s role was to serve men’s interests.'


Reminds me of other Religions still practiced today.... Sad...
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:57 AM
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If Jesus came with a New Covenant - does one need to know all the 'old' stuff that happened before?
(Esp, because much is pretty gruesome - so much I don't want to give examples!!)

Christians aren't under the law, but grace, after all ...even the eating habits
do not need to be followed, it seems.

What do you say?

God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and Who He was in the past is the same as He is today and for all eternity.

God is absolute, and there is no variation in that which is absolute. However, variation exists only in that which is limited, and so is our mind and body which is subject to the constraint of limits within the Eternal Circle. How limits come to be a reality within our world is beyond me.

A man opposed to God is subject to judgement. Because of the free will, there is a need for an individual to reap what they sow, and the system of reaping is overseen by God. Will a man not reap what he will sow?

God is Love indeed, but Justice is born out of Love.
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Old 19-10-2019, 08:02 AM
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' I always like to consider the woman caught in adultery and her
punishment by law should have been death.'

Should have been death, why?
And what about the Man?

Nice point!

And here we see the limitation in man to profer justice. Now if man chooses for himself what he would like God to be with the same limited mind as the woman's temporary partner, then it follows that everyone with a human mind is subject to some kind of flaw and limitation.

We should now look towards God and ask... why did you do that God?
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