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10-07-2021, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
Though one can, though free will, inhabit environments one is not karmically producing.
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Every deed produces Karma so where is this 'Enviroment' one can inhabit through 'Free Will' that's not 'Karmically Producing' ?
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10-07-2021, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
Everything you said there is true though.
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Enlightenment is not loss of ' Identity ' but a reclaiming of your true identity... Buddha Nature.
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10-07-2021, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Every deed produces Karma
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The way I see it now is it is more about one's state of being and not really "deeds" or individual acts though those of course occur as they are patterns and habits which manifest due to ones established "identity" or ego. It's that repetition of ego projection that establishes karmic effects. So it's not like I stole this thing so I will have something stole from me, it's more about the state of consciousness or ego that would steal. That is what draws karmic effects. So it's deeper than I did this or that deed and so got bad karma. It's the nature of the ego or false self, the patterns and habits established in that, the ideas and beliefs and thought patterns one is identified with and acting upon and projecting day after day. Also one is perceiving or experiencing though these filters of ego.
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10-07-2021, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
So it's deeper than I did this or that deed and so got bad karma.
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Karma according to The Buddha is neither bad nor good, you could look up some Teachings to help you understand. I could Post Links but to save space you can easily find them yourself
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10-07-2021, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
It's the nature of the ego or false self, the patterns and habits established in that, the ideas and beliefs and thought patterns one is identified with and acting upon and projecting day after day.
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Right, I think this is one key to understanding, with what sky123 mentions that it can be positive or negative.
I truly wonder how far we can go with that.
Again practicing Samadhi does it automatically: a world that we would have never thought or imagined just unfolds in front of us, like magic, just because we disentangled knots in our mind.
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10-07-2021, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gem
Buddha was pretty specific about Kamma being volition
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Ah, and ideas and beliefs being created by volition.
That is probably the root.
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10-07-2021, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Guillaume
Again practicing Samadhi does it automatically
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You dont ' Practice ' Samadhi Guillaume, you practice Meditation and it comes to you. . It's a state of mind..
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10-07-2021, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
You dont ' Practice ' Samadhi Guillaume, you practice Meditation and it comes to you. . It's a state of mind..
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ahah, I know, that was a writing shortcut!
Let's say one need to sustain the Samadhi state to have karma dissolved.
By the way, depending on the sources, I've seen people claiming that Samadhi during 1 hour was enough to be enlightened, but I've also seen several days!
Any opinion / reliable source?
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10-07-2021, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Guillaume
ahah, I know, that was a writing shortcut!
Let's say one need to sustain the Samadhi state to have karma dissolved.
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As I mentioned previously, after The Buddha's Enlightenment it is writted in Sutras/Suttas that He still had to deal with Past Karma.... so Karma is not dissolved
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10-07-2021, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
You dont ' Practice ' Samadhi Guillaume, you practice Meditation and it comes to you. . It's a state of mind..
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Even 'practicing meditation' might be a misnomer......... To quiet the mind is in of itself a hard task to do because the mind wants to remain active. The harder one tries to quiet the mind, the further they get from quieting the mind. A lot of times, if not all the time, it happens without the person realizing it.
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