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Old 05-03-2011, 08:11 PM
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Attention mechanics

the power of now scientifically explained;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcCkUDbrZqA
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:09 PM
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Yeah I liked it, it all kinda made sense. The chalk, driving and baseball analogies reminded me of a Brazilian soccer player aptly named Socrates I saw talking about his success in footy. He said 'players who run don't think and players who think don't run', (with the ball he meant) same sort of thing I guess.

I liked the Buddhist references, concise and simple, and the concentration on breath technique for focusing into the present moment is comparable with basic meditation techniques.

My only issue is that perhaps present moment awareness over self-centredness doesn't necessarily provide the happiness the guy was looking for. I understand the feelings of elation and exaltation that may accompany real present moment awareness, but wonder if mere contentedness might be ... more balanced... more present.

More peaceful.


Fine line between that and boring though, hehe.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:06 PM
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I have always wondered why things like this need to be explained and researched...
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Old 06-03-2011, 03:45 AM
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I think it's a dressed up Buddhist message.
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Old 06-03-2011, 12:06 PM
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I think it's a dressed up Buddhist message.

For lack any better reasoning, I think you're right haha
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Old 06-03-2011, 06:06 PM
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Yeah I liked it, it all kinda made sense. The chalk, driving and baseball analogies reminded me of a Brazilian soccer player aptly named Socrates I saw talking about his success in footy. He said 'players who run don't think and players who think don't run', (with the ball he meant) same sort of thing I guess.

I liked the Buddhist references, concise and simple, and the concentration on breath technique for focusing into the present moment is comparable with basic meditation techniques.

My only issue is that perhaps present moment awareness over self-centredness doesn't necessarily provide the happiness the guy was looking for. I understand the feelings of elation and exaltation that may accompany real present moment awareness, but wonder if mere contentedness might be ... more balanced... more present.

More peaceful.


Fine line between that and boring though, hehe.


go there and find out for yourself

this is not about discussing present moment awareness

it's about living it
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Old 06-03-2011, 06:08 PM
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I have always wondered why things like this need to be explained and researched...

you guys sound so smug

i was smug too once,

thought i knew a lot

luckily all my beliefs were so heavy, they crumbled under their own weight

what if you knew nothing whatsoever?

what if you lived as total innocence

simple presence...

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Old 06-03-2011, 07:28 PM
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Only to say that no smugness was intended.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:47 PM
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Only to say that no smugness was intended.

no, no, no

the smugness has nothing to do with these posts

the smugness is us thinking we know something in our life

the smugness is our own self-centered way of seeing and thinking

when we can see that for what it is

then that is freedom from it
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:18 PM
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no, no, no

the smugness has nothing to do with these posts

the smugness is us thinking we know something in our life

the smugness is our own self-centered way of seeing and thinking

when we can see that for what it is

then that is freedom from it

If only the death of smugness required seeing our own self centered way of seeing and thinking. Although this 'seeing' might be helpful it is by no means the end of the story (or the smugness).

I think it is possible for us to be just as smug in our so called 'enlightened' seeings as it is in our 'unenlightened' seeings. Even 'I know nothing' can be turned into smugness.

I like the nature of your aspiration din, but I think your aspirations are beyond what is currently possible. Like it or not, we cant help but be a bit smug sometimes (did I say that very smugly?)
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