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08-08-2020, 08:08 AM
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Master
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Location: West Wales. u.k
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Nothing is Happening.
This nondual assertion, primarily by Neo Advaita, is a difficult concept but should not put off seekers considering it when looking for solutions to the search, simply because it is often misunderstood, sometimes as a deliberate policy to undermine. So whenver it is said "Why, who, or what is doing or talking?", it is always Oneness doing all by and to itself, whilst manifesting as the appearance of that illusion of separation.
Another aspect that offends some is that there is only the illusion of separation and that truth/reality cannot be securely known so is an obstacle best dropped as an objective.
Neo Advaita makes these points to offer a solution to the search, that there is no such thing as enlightenmnt for separate persons, because there are no separate persons, only Oneness masquerading as such.
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08-08-2020, 10:21 AM
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Intellectual comprehension is a trap FWIW
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08-08-2020, 01:10 PM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Iamit . . .
An old saying . . . If 20 people tell you you’re drunk … maybe you oughta lie down.
In this whole “non-duality” issue . . . your only real defense is … everyone else doesn’t understand no matter what they tell you . . . and *they* are the ones that are wrong.
It is to *your* benefit that you listen to them. You spend your time in designing defenses rather than an eagerness to listen, look, and learn.
Maybe it’s time for a real, profound, deep pause on your part.
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08-08-2020, 03:02 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by zorkchop
Iamit . . .
An old saying . . . If 20 people tell you you’re drunk … maybe you oughta lie down.
In this whole “non-duality” issue . . . your only real defense is … everyone else doesn’t understand no matter what they tell you . . . and *they* are the ones that are wrong.
It is to *your* benefit that you listen to them. You spend your time in designing defenses rather than an eagerness to listen, look, and learn.
Maybe it’s time for a real, profound, deep pause on your part.
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Thats the sort of response that has no intention of reaching mutual understanding. Waste of time.
Last edited by Iamit : 08-08-2020 at 05:06 PM.
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08-08-2020, 03:13 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by janielee
Intellectual comprehension is a trap FWIW
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You may not know that there is a point of view that has no problem whatsoever with mind. Mind looks in memory for solutions to problems and if none are found searches externally for data. It would not be surprising that, if it is mind that conducts the spiritual search, that mind also has the c apacity to resonate with solutions found to end the search. Not a popular view in tradionally conditioned spiritual circles. |
08-08-2020, 05:56 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Originally Posted by Iamit
Thats the sort of response that has no intention of reaching mutual understanding. Waste of time.
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Agreed. Bad example, bad advice from that poster. Truth / false, Right / wrong aren't decided by majority, not even unanimity.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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08-08-2020, 06:01 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by janielee
Intellectual comprehension is a trap FWIW
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Surely, the intellect has its limits, and has to be used with care. There are people who rely mostly on emotions, some even mostly on instincts. Only few have some intuition to guide them.
You didn't offer a better alternative to intellectual comprehension. I hope you don't suggest "faith" in a guru or a dogma.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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08-08-2020, 06:17 PM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Who said it was for "mutual understanding?"
That was for YoU. If you can't "see" . . . that's *my* fault?
Living is easy with eyes closed.
Enjoy.
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08-08-2020, 06:38 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by zorkchop
Who said it was for "mutual understanding?"
That was for YoU. If you can't "see" . . . that's *my* fault?
Living is easy with eyes closed.
Enjoy.
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More time wasting. We are done. Last post to you. Farewell. |
08-08-2020, 08:01 PM
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Master
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Golden Bay, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by zorkchop
Living is easy with eyes closed ...
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... misunderstanding all you see.
Peace |
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