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Old 28-11-2020, 02:30 PM
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St.John Rigby. 1570-1600.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13055a.htm


I have had suspicions for a few Months but needed clarification, Documents etc: which I recieved today.
John is a distant Cousin many generations back, we are connected through my 10th Great Grandfather. While I am proud He stood up for His Faith I wonder could He have done more good staying silent and saving His life therefore being able to carry on His work within the Community of Roman Catholics forced into hiding.
I have mixed emotions that will need time to put to rest.......
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Old 30-11-2020, 05:52 AM
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On October 16, 1902, 45 year old Ida Cradock took her life.

It just happens, she is one of several women that I admire.


As for me, I have read and re-read numerous times the letters she left behind which explain why she did what she did.

The more we get to know somebody, the more we can understand why they do the things they do. This probably will hold true with your distant relative.
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Old 30-11-2020, 06:57 AM
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On October 16, 1902, 45 year old Ida Cradock took her life.

It just happens, she is one of several women that I admire.


As for me, I have read and re-read numerous times the letters she left behind which explain why she did what she did.

The more we get to know somebody, the more we can understand why they do the things they do. This probably will hold true with your distant relative.


Because of the Virus Lockdown I can't go to the Church that holds a lot of John's Records, some of His Trial Statement's I can read but many have been lost over time.
To understand why He did what He did I need to put my emotions aside which takes time, understanding the Perpetrators is easier......
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Old 19-12-2020, 02:16 PM
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On October 16, 1902, 45 year old Ida Cradock took her life.

It just happens, she is one of several women that I admire.


As for me, I have read and re-read numerous times the letters she left behind which explain why she did what she did.

The more we get to know somebody, the more we can understand why they do the things they do. This probably will hold true with your distant relative.

Just found this and googled Ida Cradock - fascinating, thanks.
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Old 19-12-2020, 04:33 PM
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Just found this and googled Ida Cradock - fascinating, thanks.

Where you able to find the two letters she left behind?

Those letters, probably have left a permanent 'mark' on my memory. She lived during a time period that most people have forgotten about.

I am glad you 'found' her.

Just like sky123 relative's story: these stories tell us much of how 'people though' and how they reacted to things. I find it amazing............
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All Saints Day.

I have lit a Candle today in Johns memory next to some Flowers, I will contemplate on His bravery and love of God.
" Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord." 2 Corinthians 5:8.
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Old 03-11-2021, 11:06 AM
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I have lit a Candle today in Johns memory next to some Flowers, I will contemplate on His bravery and love of God.
" Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord." 2 Corinthians 5:8.

That's a Lovely gesture of remembrance and I also had a flame of remembrance for my ancestors
that have carried me into this world in a unbroken line back to the first people.
Also, that is a Lovely scripture and I should read 2 Corinthians again.
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Old 30-11-2020, 03:43 PM
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Nice, hope your search goes well no matter what you find.
I am thinking he was a very interesting man.
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Old 30-11-2020, 05:05 PM
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sky123

Nice, hope your search goes well no matter what you find.
I am thinking he was a very interesting man.


Thanks, He was definitely a Brave Man and my quest is to try and understand Him better
I can read many Books written about Him but I prefer to read His own words.
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Old 30-11-2020, 05:34 PM
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Thanks, He was definitely a Brave Man and my quest is to try and understand Him better
I can read many Books written about Him but I prefer to read His own words.

I delved a bit into my own family tree.
I found some nuggets and then it all felt like such rabbit holes
leaving me wanting more information and just hitting dead ends.

I did however find a generational Granny that must have fled the potato famine
in Ireland. A ships manifest lead me to believe she traveled alone to Canada.
So I imagine she must have had some bravery and courage on top of some desperation. Go Grannies!!
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