Communicating with Jesus Christ?

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Shroom_God

I mean verbally (like telapathy). I have been communicating with this person claiming to be Jesus Christ Himself for a while now, but lately, I've been starting to wonder if it's really if Him... could it be a demon of some sort, or something else?

Telepathic communication is indeed a fact.

How do you plan to resolve your own stated question about whether this entity "claiming to be Jesus Christ Himself" is really Jesus ... as you yourself are "starting to wonder if it's really Him" as per your post.

That's a good question.

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

Do you consider Jesus and "The Christ" to be synonymous?

my thoughts on that question. i don't consider them synonymous or referring to the same thing. jesus was the name (gven by his mother i assume) of a human man who was born and died. the word christ has two meanings:

According to the Summa Theologica of Thomas Aquinas, in the singular case of Jesus, the word Christ has a twofold meaning, which stands for "both the Godhead anointing and the manhood anointed"

one could also say, jesus the christ. we have a soul which has the spiritual nature of the godhead. christ as a human title refers to a soul who is manifesting this god nature as opposed to manifesting the nature of the temporary human body.

can jesus the human contact us today? no jesus the man died. asking can christ contact us makes no sense as christ is a title for a human manifesting god.

really the question of contact is based on what one believes jesus is. if jesus is god, well yes because we are all connected with our source god. if jesus was a soul who achieved a highly advanced union with god, i would say no, such a soul could not contact "all souls" though he could be involved with a fairly large group of them.

the christian faith states jesus is god, whether one takes that literally, meaning jesus is the godhead or instead one believes jesus was god in the sense of an individual soul manifesting god's nature "perfectly" while in a human body is up to the individual.

one either believes the soul that was jesus is now off living somewhere else as something/someone else or one believes god itself manifested as a man, jesus. personally i think the catholic belief is clear, the father is the godhead, the "son" or jesus is a individual soul perfectly aligned with the nature of the godhead, and the holy spirit is the force that allows for this connection or communication. i'd say the concept of a holy spirit is not necessary.

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

You are making a very important distinction in your post when you reference "The Christ". Do you consider Jesus and "The Christ" to be synonymous?

I consider 'Jesus' as having a beginning 'birthday' and ending 'death day'
referring mainly to a man of flesh. (vehicle)
'Jesus of Nazareth'
'Jesus son of Joseph'
'Jesus son of Man'
'old man or nature'

Jesus 'The Christ' I believe is a title of authority that started
at the baptism by John The Baptist.Then He achieved Christ-hood after the
40 day fast by passing His tribulations and testings.
Full submersion in Water signifying death of the body, then the Holy Spirit
Of God descended like a dove.
The Christ I believe is beyond anything I can really fully grasp.
Some phrases or titles that refer to His Christ-hood to some degree.
'Alpha and Omega or First and Last'
'Christ Spirit'
'Mind of Christ'
'Prince of Peace'
'Logos'
'Author of Life'
'Author and Perfecter of our Faith'
'Bread of Life'
'Firstborn over all creation'
'Light of the World'
'Morning Star'
'Resurrection and Life'
'Righteous Branch'
'Son of God'
'True Light'
'NEW man or nature'

So on and so forth ad infinitum.

Romans 8 NLT (New Living Translation)

Life in the Spirit
1So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. 2And because you belong to him, the powera of the life-giving Spirit has freed youb from the power of sin that leads to death. 3The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature.c So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins. 4He did this so that the just requirement of the law would be fully satisfied for us, who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit.
5Those who are dominated by the sinful nature think about sinful things, but those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit think about things that please the Spirit. 6So letting your sinful nature control your mind leads to death. But letting the Spirit control your mind leads to life and peace. 7For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God’s laws, and it never will. 8That’s why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God.
9But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.) 10And Christ lives within you, so even though your body will die because of sin, the Spirit gives you lifed because you have been made right with God. 11The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you.
12Therefore, dear brothers and sisters,e you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. 13For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature,f you will live. 14For all who are led by the Spirit of God are childreng of God.
15So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children.h Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”i 16For his Spirit joins with our spirit to affirm that we are God’s children. 17And since we are his children, we are his heirs. In fact, together with Christ we are heirs of God’s glory. But if we are to share his glory, we must also share his suffering.

The Future Glory
18Yet what we suffer now is nothing compared to the glory he will reveal to us later. 19For all creation is waiting eagerly for that future day when God will reveal who his children really are. 20Against its will, all creation was subjected to God’s curse. But with eager hope, 21the creation looks forward to the day when it will join God’s children in glorious freedom from death and decay. 22For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children,j including the new bodies he has promised us. 24We were given this hope when we were saved. (If we already have something, we don’t need to hopek for it. 25But if we look forward to something we don’t yet have, we must wait patiently and confidently.)
26And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. 27And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believersl in harmony with God’s own will. 28And we know that God causes everything to work togetherm for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them. 29For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstbornn among many brothers and sisters. 30And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory.

Nothing Can Separate Us from God’s Love
31What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
35Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36(As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”o) 37No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
38And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,p neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[kundalinikid]

It says in the Urantia book that only prayers of a Spiritual nature and serving the ultimate purposes of God enter the spiritual circuits of the Eternal Son.

And all I wanted to know is if he preferred chocolate or vanilla...darn

Originally Posted by kundalinikid

It says in the Urantia book that only prayers of a Spiritual nature and serving the ultimate purposes of God enter the spiritual circuits of the Eternal Son.

And all I wanted to know is if he preferred chocolate or vanilla...darn

taste is very spiritual though. something had to create the taste of chocolate and vanilla. sometimes i taste something and am like, what is this exactly? taste is a very strange mystical magical thing. food on the tongue, sends signals to our brain, then our brain somehow tells us, or gives us, the awareness or experience of the taste. life is so much more mysterious than we realize. chocolate and vanilla are from plants. why would plants exist with those flavors? for who or what? us? we seem to be the only living thing on this planet that enjoys chocolate and vanilla, seems to mean it was made for us and our brains. made by who or what? how would one invent a new plant with a unique taste? the work of beings in another dimension.

[kundalinikid]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

taste is very spiritual though. something had to create the taste of chocolate and vanilla. sometimes i taste something and am like, what is this exactly? taste is a very strange mystical magical thing. food on the tongue, sends signals to our brain, then our brain somehow tells us, or gives us, the awareness or experience of the taste. life is so much more mysterious than we realize. chocolate and vanilla are from plants. why would plants exist with those flavors? for who or what? us? we seem to be the only living thing on this planet that enjoys chocolate and vanilla, seems to mean it was made for us and our brains. made by who or what? how would one invent a new plant with a unique taste? the work of beings in another dimension.

Hmm, those are some good points. Well, I hope he doesn't cop out and choose twist. What kind of a God is that?

[sky]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

taste is very spiritual though. something had to create the taste of chocolate and vanilla. sometimes i taste something and am like, what is this exactly? taste is a very strange mystical magical thing. food on the tongue, sends signals to our brain, then our brain somehow tells us, or gives us, the awareness or experience of the taste. life is so much more mysterious than we realize. chocolate and vanilla are from plants. why would plants exist with those flavors? for who or what? us? we seem to be the only living thing on this planet that enjoys chocolate and vanilla, seems to mean it was made for us and our brains. made by who or what? how would one invent a new plant with a unique taste? the work of beings in another dimension.

Taste wasn't ' Created ' it evolved.


[ Human taste abilities have been shaped, in large part, by the ecological niches our evolutionary ancestors occupied and by the nutrients they sought.]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...60982213004181

even evolution is a creation!

amazingly dna can mutate, who or what made it that way? evolution is a very creative way to allow creatures to adapt to their environment, brilliant creation i'd say

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Gee, that was excellent, Quodsi!

Amen! There are indeed many false prophets and "gurus" who have gone out into the world. One must test them. "thumbsup:

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

my thoughts on that question. i don't consider them synonymous or referring to the same thing. jesus was the name (gven by his mother i assume) of a human man who was born and died. the word christ has two meanings:

According to the Summa Theologica of Thomas Aquinas, in the singular case of Jesus, the word Christ has a twofold meaning, which stands for "both the Godhead anointing and the manhood anointed"

one could also say, jesus the christ. we have a soul which has the spiritual nature of the godhead. christ as a human title refers to a soul who is manifesting this god nature as opposed to manifesting the nature of the temporary human body.

can jesus the human contact us today? no jesus the man died. asking can christ contact us makes no sense as christ is a title for a human manifesting god.

really the question of contact is based on what one believes jesus is. if jesus is god, well yes because we are all connected with our source god. if jesus was a soul who achieved a highly advanced union with god, i would say no, such a soul could not contact "all souls" though he could be involved with a fairly large group of them.

the christian faith states jesus is god, whether one takes that literally, meaning jesus is the godhead or instead one believes jesus was god in the sense of an individual soul manifesting god's nature "perfectly" while in a human body is up to the individual.

one either believes the soul that was jesus is now off living somewhere else as something/someone else or one believes god itself manifested as a man, jesus. personally i think the catholic belief is clear, the father is the godhead, the "son" or jesus is a individual soul perfectly aligned with the nature of the godhead, and the holy spirit is the force that allows for this connection or communication. i'd say the concept of a holy spirit is not necessary.

You raise some very good points in your post !