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Old 01-10-2022, 12:06 AM
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@ Michael ~ An oxymoron of sorts. Taking a cue from what Jesus is said to have said at different times:

My Father and I are one &

Father, why have you abandoned me

signalling that there is both oneness as well as separation even if subtle; oscillation.
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Old 01-10-2022, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
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@ Michael ~ An oxymoron of sorts. Taking a cue from what Jesus is said to have said at different times:

My Father and I are one &

Father, why have you abandoned me

signalling that there is both oneness as well as separation even if subtle; oscillation.
Bless you Bikram for your thoughtful words of comfort and joy, I understand this feeling well, but there is still a part of me that wants to be saved from all harm by a higher power rushing to my aid when i am in distress.

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Old 27-10-2023, 10:51 PM
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Defect looking for a character.

Its been a year passed now from my last post here, thought it time to
write something.

WHAT IS REAL? Does anybody really Know? These questions arise and the
answer to the question of what is real? Seem to negate common sense.

Because the answer in my awareness says that NOTHING is REAL ?

How can this be so? If NOTHING is REAL then this universe is an ILLUSION

and if that is so, which to me it is, then what are "WE" that of humanity?

Are we therefore illusions too? The answer is yes we all are ILLUSIONS

in the IDEA of Motion in Absolute Intelligence, Only NO-THING "IS"

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Old 28-10-2023, 09:28 AM
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A lot of truth in that Michael


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Old 28-10-2023, 11:18 AM
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I’d take the opposite view and say everything is real. Singularity is real when ego dies and we see who we are as living light in ineffable peace, feeling complete, renewing itself within itself. Yet, duality is also real, for the one becomes two, polarising itself in a game of separation and union, of concealing and revealing, that by experiencing contrast and overcoming adversity, the singular aspect of universal consciousness as Self, also enriches itself.

Time and space disappear in singularity and they become the template or screen in duality.

From the finite perspective of us here as an entity, we are limited and yet unbound, we are in the universe and the universe is in us ~ all these are known in direct experience, hence real.

I’d like to go with real although I do agree Vedanta says the world is an illusion, a dream (incidentally, Tantra accepts the world as real, whilst acknowledging, as Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri said, ‘God or Sat is the only true substance’). Sure it is, but then dreams too are real, we weep real tears in them, don’t we?
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Old 28-10-2023, 06:14 PM
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Blessings Unseeking seeker for your wise and thoughtful words here, real to
me means that it is absolute and unchanging for eternity. I see relative
"realness" as a transitory phenomenon that comes and goes like the wind, it
can never be the unchanging NOUMENON.

Relativity "SEEMS" real but the words SEEMS is deceptive, like the ground
seems solid, but in fact it is a quicksand.

My life "SEEMS" real and the pain "I" suffered seemed real enough, but what
is it that suffered? Who said that life was but a dream?

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Yes of course, Michael, you are right and I agree about the truth of the unchanging vs the ephemeral. Likewise you are correct in prompting the inquiry that when we suffer, who suffers but the temporary entity who is not.

Yet, it is equally clear that the two arises from the one but the one is not unchanging from the point of view of being inert and lifeless but is ever pulsating, with vitality. Such is as I have seen it and so understood it. Thus, the two (duality), is as real as the singularity, both dynamic. In the absolute sense, we can say the singularity is real because that is wherefrom duality arises but instead of using words like real and unreal, perhaps it may be more apt to view it as freedom of Absoluteness or as you say, noumena, to be as It chooses.

On a more practical basis, as it impacts us here and now in lived reality, moment to moment, the interim challenge seems to be to embody awareness of Self within body-mind, that each pore of form is fully magnetised. The catch of course always being is that the seeker who seeks is a receptor who can only purify the vessel to draw in the energy.
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Old 28-10-2023, 10:02 PM
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Blessings UNseeking Seeker thank you so kindly for your insightful post and
yes I too agree with your idea of the seeker who seeks is a receptor who can
only purify his vessel to draw in that holy energy, I have been actively doing
this for the past 50 years, and think in insightful awareness that I have barely
scratched through the surface of the ALL NESS that lies within there.

I had an opportunity 47 years ago when I lay on the bed and said I want to
come home-and immediately a mighty voice said COME! My legs started moving at a faster and faster rate absolute perfection of motion effortlessly
zero effort from me, my legs became a blur, the ceiling opening up and sparkling lights filled my legs moving upwards, my feet were disappearing
and gaps in my legs appeared, I realized that soon I would vanish from the face of this earth, and this arose within me the feeling that I had not said goodbye to my mother/ This thought and my beginning to feel uneasy, caused this
wondrous adventure to stop, the ceiling closed over and my legs stopped m moving.

Now I regret what I did as I have not been as close to ONE at that intensity
again.
But it gave me the idea for the translation sequence where we can fully and
totally surrender at depth to the all and then be taken out of relativity and
let go of all KOSHIC sheaths and vanish from relativity

I agree words like real and unreal do not do justice to that which IS

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