My Own I Am.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Honza

Hi davidsun,

It is a form of existentialism. The 'unbearable lightness of being'.....

Is an 'encounter' with the issues spelled out in this [quoted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightness_(philosophy)] - what you are referencing:

"Kundera uses Friedrich Nietzsche's doctrine of the Eternal Return to illustrate Lightness. Eternal Return dictates that all things in existence recur over and over again for all eternity. This is to say that human history is a preset circle without progress, the same events arising perpetually and doomed never to alter or to improve. Existence is thus weighty because it stands fixed in an infinite cycle. This weightiness is “the heaviest of burdens”, for “if every second of our lives recurs an infinite number of times, we are nailed to eternity as Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross.” At the same time, it is necessary for any event to occur in the cycle of events exactly as it has always occurred for the cycle to be identical; consequently, everything takes on an eternally fixed meaning. This fact prevents one from believing things to be fleeting and worthless.

The inverse of this concept is Kundera's “unbearable lightness of being.” Assuming that eternal return were impossible, humankind would experience an “absolute absence of burden,” and this would “[cause] man to be lighter than air” in his lack of weight of meaning. Something which does not forever recur has its brief existence, and, once it is complete, the universe goes on existing, utterly indifferent to the completed phenomenon. “Life which disappears once and for all, which does not return” writes Kundera, is “without weight...and whether it was horrible, beautiful, or sublime...means nothing.” Each life is insignificant; every decision does not matter. Since decisions do not matter, they are "light": they do not tie us down. However, at the same time, the insignificance of our decisions - our lives, or being - is unbearable. Hence, "the unbearable lightness of being." On the other hand, eternal existence would demand of us strict adherence to prescripted rules and laws; a sense of duty and rigorous morality.

Originally Posted by Honza

Existence is tough.

Are you personally having rough-tough situational experiences? Or does this statement relate to what you see/know others are going through?

Originally Posted by Honza

It is scary. If I call myself God then will I make it worse?

Can you be more specific? How might (?) you then make it 'worse'? And how/why is such possible worsening 'scary' to you? It would help me to relate to you if I had a better idea of what your life-journey is like.


If you would rather keep things in the above regard 'private' or if things get balled up here because others 'bounce off their walls' (which may(?) 'happen' in response you sharing your emotional 'trip') feel free to continue this conversation with me via P.M.s

[Honza]

The unbearable lightness of being reference was used non specifically. Not to Kundera.

Existentialism is a term often loosely used to describe problems with existence. To feel the burden of existence bearing down upon you.

I have heard at least one mass murderer ascribe his condition to existentialism.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Honza

The unbearable lightness of being reference was used non specifically. Not to Kundera.

In that case, let me just say, I have no idea of what you are referencing by way of using that phrase.

Originally Posted by Honza

Existentialism is a term often loosely used to describe problems with existence. To feel the burden of existence bearing down upon you.

What (specifically) do you experience as being 'burdensome'. The only idea I have in relation to your use of the word is what I said in my treatise: "No one can ever actually ‘see’ or ‘walk’ someone else’s Love and Joy path for him or her! 'Every man shall bear his own burden' (Galatians 6:5) is how the apostle Paul conveyed the same message in the context of his hierarchical-power structured culture, wherein servants, wives and children had to dutifully obey masters, husbands and parents (see Colossians*3:18-23).

Originally Posted by Honza

I have heard at least one mass murderer ascribe his condition to existentialism.

Again, I can't make sense of this without you being more specific - What was the "mass murderer's" logic in ascribing his 'condition' to 'existentialism'? And what is your logic in this regard? Please understand, I cannot know what you mean otherwise because I don't think in such 'terms' - maybe I can, if you explain (with specific/illustrative examples) your logic to me, however.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by davidsun

Again, I can't make sense of this without you being more specific - What was the "mass murderer's" logic in ascribing his 'condition' to 'existentialism'? And what is your logic in this regard? Please understand, I cannot know what you mean otherwise because I don't think in such 'terms' - maybe I can, if you explain (with specific/illustrative examples) your logic to me, however.

It is something I read about in a newspaper. I don't remember the details.

[Honza]

What is burdensome about life? The truth is that so much is burdensome that it is difficult to pin point the issues.

I see other people suffering. I suffer as well.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Honza

What is burdensome about life? The truth is that so much is burdensome that it is difficult to pin point the issues.

I see other people suffering. I suffer as well.

Yah, things can certainly be 'overwhelming' and 'dumbfounding' at times. My only suggestion is that you 'pray' (i.e. inwardly 'ask') for 'inner' Spirit to show you what's what as welll as the best way to navigate what you are faced with, and that you hope and trust (to whatever extent you can) that such outcome will (in bits and spurts maybe) 'result' simply because that is what you ask for and that is the way Spirit ubiquitously flow-operates.

One of the mantras I used (repetively saying it over and over in my head) when I was first getting my ball rolling was: "Wherever I am, whatever comes my way, what is the very best for Life is what I'll think, feel, do and say."

Row, row, row your boat (knowing that Life's Spirit ever-accompanies you as a friend), gently down the stream, Honza.

[Honza]

Yes thank you davidsun....

[Honza]

Terrible fear that I AM today. I pray that it will pass.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Honza

Terrible fear that I AM today. I pray that it will pass.

[Honza]

Good one!....