where would Christianity be without the Vikings?

[sky]

[quote=G.Duval]

Originally Posted by sky

Actually it is transitional. It can evolve into spiritual or devolve into material - physical.

We can agree to disagree ....

[G.Duval]

[quote=sky]

Originally Posted by G.Duval

We can agree to disagree ....

Ok by me.
My understanding of Paul's churches role is spiritual element superwise transformation of soulish e!enent into spiritual. (
1Cor 15, "44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.").

[sky]

[quote=G.Duval]

Originally Posted by sky

Ok by me.
My understanding of Paul's churches role is spiritual element superwise transformation of soulish e!enent into spiritual. (
1Cor 15, "44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.").

Or it is the physical raised as spirit

[G.Duval]

[quote=sky]

Originally Posted by G.Duval

Or it is the physical raised as spirit

Technically, yes. Paul was a proto-Valentinian Gnostic and material (hylic, sarkic , somatic) nature was on the bootom of spiritualty grades.

[G.Duval]

[quote=sky]

Originally Posted by G.Duval

Or it is the physical raised as spirit

"But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ." 1 Cor 3
Paul's terminology, but in reality anything may happen...

Originally Posted by sky

Or it is the physical raised as spirit

Biblically the physical is simply a component of the soul….

[G.Duval]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Biblically the physical is simply a component of the soul….

Is it possible that physical world was created as a stage for evolution of souls?

Originally Posted by G.Duval

Is it possible that physical world was created as a stage for evolution of souls?

G.Duval,

“All the worid’s a stage”….evolution is, therefore, a given. The intended evolution of souls is to transform from being Soulish to becoming spiritual. We can see a difference between religions in viewing this. On one hand the goal of Buddhism is to escape the world and its suffering. Christianity also recognizes the sickness of the world but has the goal of transforming and saving the world. Same diagnosis but two different goals.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

On one hand the goal of Buddhism is to escape the world and its suffering. Christianity also recognizes the sickness of the world but has the goal of transforming and saving the world. Same diagnosis but two different goals.

Nope exactly the same goal , transform the 'self' through the Buddha's Teachings and therefore be able to help the world in it's transformation...... you have to start with 'oneself' to be able to help others....

[G.Duval]

Originally Posted by Molearner

G.Duval,

“All the worid’s a stage”….evolution is, therefore, a given. The intended evolution of souls is to transform from being Soulish to becoming spiritual. We can see a difference between religions in viewing this. On one hand the goal of Buddhism is to escape the world and its suffering. Christianity also recognizes the sickness of the world but has the goal of transforming and saving the world. Same diagnosis but two different goals.

Kabbllah operates with "bread of shame" notion. It may be that evolution of souls needed to overcome that notion of refusal of Creator's free gift.