The Holy Grail

What is the truth behind this legend?

Did the Knights Templar protect a secret known as the holy grail?
Did King Arthurs Knights go off in search of the holy grail?

And.... if it the holy grail was a secret about the reality of Mary Magdalene (bless her), why would King Arthur's Knights go off in search of it?

I believe Jesus and Mary were married, and I also believe there were offspring. While I also believe this information would've been kept a secret by certain individuals who would benefit from it remaining that way.

But then.... I also believe there are other massive secrets relating to every other matter secretive 'organisations' want to keep a secret.

Look at the Freemasons for example? Look at the Illuminati?
Look at those weirdos who practice all manner of odd stuff, and keep it all in the back of their closet.

So is the "holy grail" just one secret, or several? Is it an object? And who is involved?

What does everyone think (or know)?

God bless...

AM

As far as I know Ascended Master, or rather as an addage to this subject, I know that the Nazi's were in pursuit of the holy grail as I think Hitler thought it would help him during World War 2.

My thoughts on this matter however, is that I suspect the Holy Grail to be a symbol of an ideal rather than an actual physical object that brings eternal life, though I have no proof of this.

Originally Posted by kundalini

As far as I know Ascended Master, or rather as an addage to this subject, I know that the Nazi's were in pursuit of the holy grail as I think Hitler thought it would help him during World War 2.

My thoughts on this matter however, is that I suspect the Holy Grail to be a symbol of an ideal rather than an actual physical object that brings eternal life, though I have no proof of this.

Hi Kundalini

Yes, this is true. By virtue of Himmler's henchmen wasn't it?

The energies brought to the forefront during the ongoings of WW2 sparked a cry across the globe, and many cells of raw darkness spawned everywhere. Where rescue missions were fought and won, not only on this dimension, but also within the energetic realms.

Battles that make you cry with pride for being with the light. Objectives and outcomes that make you warm with love.

A fantastic book about this subject has been written by Stephen Turoff: 'seven steps to eternity'.

Information that changes lives forever... God bless you Stephen.

In memory of our loved ones who stood against evil and won.
On every plane this universe is encapsulated by.

Love and light,

AM

It may or may not have been Himmler's henchman. My knowledge about the Holy Grail is very basic. The name 'Stephen Turoff' sounds vaguely familiar and I shall be sure to look out for his work, thanks AM. Kundalini.

Originally Posted by kundalini

It may or may not have been Himmler's henchman. My knowledge about the Holy Grail is very basic. The name 'Stephen Turoff' sounds vaguely familiar and I shall be sure to look out for his work, thanks AM. Kundalini.

Hiya,

Not sure whether anyone will be interested or not, but the SS was the unit who co-ordinated the search for the 'holy grail', among specialists. And Himmler was the SS chief commander. I sense Himmler was the driving force in this search. Very dark individual who knew all about the occult, and tampered with black magic.
And we all know what happens to somebody who does that now don't we?
And we all know how they use that to sway others now don't we?
He full well knew the spiritual power these objects possessed (due to both their energetic power, as well as by virtue of how many people wanted them, and how much they wanted them.
ie, if you turned around and said the holy grail was in your pocket, how many people would you have under your spell? How much energy would be directed at you in the process?
How much power could you assume just by 'owning' an object so sought after?
He even dedicated a room in his headquarters to King Arthur would you believe? And set up his own "Teutonic Knights" - err, weren't the Knights Hospitallers known as the Teutonic Knights? Or was that the Knights Templar?
But it seems to have been his twisted mind that found black magic more comforting than the average pillow. And his underlings succumbed, often without their knowledge.

Onto better subjects however!... many know of Stephen Turoff as "the psychic surgeon" - based in Essex.
What a legend...

Kind regards and best wishes,

AM

Originally Posted by Ascended Master

Hiya,

Not sure whether anyone will be interested or not, but the SS was the unit who co-ordinated the search for the 'holy grail', among specialists. And Himmler was the SS chief commander. I sense Himmler was the driving force in this search. Very dark individual who knew all about the occult, and tampered with black magic.
And we all know what happens to somebody who does that now don't we?
And we all know how they use that to sway others now don't we?
He full well knew the spiritual power these objects possessed (due to both their energetic power, as well as by virtue of how many people wanted them, and how much they wanted them.
ie, if you turned around and said the holy grail was in your pocket, how many people would you have under your spell? How much energy would be directed at you in the process?
How much power could you assume just by 'owning' an object so sought after?
He even dedicated a room in his headquarters to King Arthur would you believe? And set up his own "Teutonic Knights" - err, weren't the Knights Hospitallers known as the Teutonic Knights? Or was that the Knights Templar?
But it seems to have been his twisted mind that found black magic more comforting than the average pillow. And his underlings succumbed, often without their knowledge.

Onto better subjects however!... many know of Stephen Turoff as "the psychic surgeon" - based in Essex.
What a legend...

Kind regards and best wishes,

AM

Well, I shall do some research of Stephen Turoff - his name is definetely ringing some bells. As for the Holy Grail, you are probably right about Himmler but I do know that Hitler was some what of an occult master. Have you ever heard of a woman called Linda Goodman? She come up with some amazing theories using lexiconing and Hitler's name. It's very telling.

Originally Posted by kundalini

Well, I shall do some research of Stephen Turoff - his name is definetely ringing some bells. As for the Holy Grail, you are probably right about Himmler but I do know that Hitler was some what of an occult master. Have you ever heard of a woman called Linda Goodman? She come up with some amazing theories using lexiconing and Hitler's name. It's very telling.

Was he now? The grotty man!
It sure as heck wasn't love and light occultism now was it?! lol
Thank you very much for that info!

Linda Goodman? Thank you for that too!
No I haven't heard of her before, but will try and know everything there is to know about her very shortly!
God knows how one became so studious?

Must be all that positive energy??

Love and light,

AM

Originally Posted by Ascended Master

Was he now? The grotty man!
It sure as heck wasn't love and light occultism now was it?! lol
Thank you very much for that info!

Linda Goodman? Thank you for that too!
No I haven't heard of her before, but will try and know everything there is to know about her very shortly!
God knows how one became so studious?

Must be all that positive energy??

Love and light,

AM

Lol, possibly more like the inclination to achieve that positive energy. Yes, I think you will find some of her theories revelationary. She has now passed to the spirit world but if I were you I would try to obtain at least one of her books.

Did the Knights Templar protect a secret known as the holy grail?

I think they must have found and protected something....but don't know enough to say exactly what.

And.... if it the holy grail was a secret about the reality of Mary Magdalene (bless her), why would King Arthur's Knights go off in search of it?

Maybe the person who started the tales of kind arthur and his knights didn't know what the holy grail was himself....and just assumed it was an object.....that is assuming the tales of arthur are just tales that is. *holds head* It's all very complicated....but interesting that the same subjects appear in may different tales...it has to be based in fact somewhere along the line I guess.

I believe Jesus and Mary were married, and I also believe there were offspring. While I also believe this information would've been kept a secret by certain individuals who would benefit from it remaining that way.

Yup...agree with you totally.....I mean...what exactly did jesus get up to between being a baby and a man? He must have done something in those thirty odd years...heh! In that day and age it would be expected of him to take a wife and produce children...he wouldn't have been much of a man if he hadn't...or so they would have thought right?

Look at the Freemasons for example?

Did you know there is a Masonic Knights Templar? I think it's called the Order of The Knights Templar. Okay so it's all ritual based these days (and costs a fortune to be part of apparently) but kind of interesting all the same. I didn't even know it existed until i was at my step dad's masonic hall with him one day and saw a little display case with a figure of a knight in it...so of course I took a closer look! heh! Was kind of shocked when I saw the knight was wearing the knights templar outfit and it was my step dad who told me that there were still members of this organisation even now....(I'm so slow sometimes...lol)

Anyhoo...enough waffle...great thread...thanks AM.

Originally Posted by Tiy

Maybe the person who started the tales of kind arthur and his knights didn't know what the holy grail was himself....and just assumed it was an object.....that is assuming the tales of arthur are just tales that is. *holds head* It's all very complicated....but interesting that the same subjects appear in may different tales...it has to be based in fact somewhere along the line I guess.

Very true! From what I can gather, Arthur and Merlin are very real characters, although there is much to understand...
Their 'incarnations' (1500 years ago) must be everso different to what they are now spiritually (through their own development), but I do know they were very real, at that time, in the form they were in for that time.

The most interesting thing I find, is that King Arthur and his 'Knights' were real, who inspired other Knights to be so bold, who in turn probably came to inspire the Knights Templar of the Crusades?

I know people are trying to link the Templars in with the time of Christ, but all we can really do is match Knightly characteristics (and religious beliefs / standpoints) with another. Names and causes changed all the time?....
So it is quite likely there is a link somewhere between the Templars and the Arthurian Knights, thus linking the cause of Mary Magdalene, to why Arthur might have been involved in 'the search for the holy grail'.

It is likely Arthur and his Knights were already involved in 'the grail', so it would've been mans interpretation to say that they went off in search for it. Maybe, they were actually called in to help protect it?

As per the 'factual' film that has been released, maybe Arthur was a part of Rome. Although maybe that was because the papal throne called on him to help keep the secret?
Which is eventually what he rebelled against, being a man of honour that he was, thus later forging an alliance with Merlin for the cause of religious truth and freedom in respect of the grail, plus the more pagan belief systems?

Originally Posted by Tiy

Yup...agree with you totally.....I mean...what exactly did jesus get up to between being a baby and a man? He must have done something in those thirty odd years...heh! In that day and age it would be expected of him to take a wife and produce children...he wouldn't have been much of a man if he hadn't...or so they would have thought right?

lol - definately!

Originally Posted by Tiy

Did you know there is a Masonic Knights Templar? I think it's called the Order of The Knights Templar. Okay so it's all ritual based these days (and costs a fortune to be part of apparently) but kind of interesting all the same. I didn't even know it existed until i was at my step dad's masonic hall with him one day and saw a little display case with a figure of a knight in it...so of course I took a closer look! heh! Was kind of shocked when I saw the knight was wearing the knights templar outfit and it was my step dad who told me that there were still members of this organisation even now....(I'm so slow sometimes...lol)

Excellent stuff! Not slow at all!
I knew there were modern Knights Templar who wear the same white robes etc, but as per the ritualistic part, that's why I'm so interested. Rituals seem to provide some very real results, so the nature of these rituals is my interest. My old boss was a Freemason for example, and he was a good man who enjoyed the benefits of being a component of an influential group of gentleman, but then there's George Bush? lol

Love and light,

AM