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Old 02-03-2017, 11:35 PM
keokutah keokutah is offline
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Trigger Point Therapy

Anyone here into this? I think it is probably the most amazing cure I've ever stumbled upon and something you can do completely on your own.

99% of my problems were due to trigger points. I had (still have) really tight hips, and my hips end up causing trigger points in the glutes, abs, lower back, and it's basically like a chain reaction, that goes all the way up to my shoulders neck and hands. But it's not just muscular pain.

For years I was struggling with unexplained digestive problems and I tried everything to cure it. I went to naturopaths, specialists, many doctors, I tried everything, until one day after releasing my hips, I discovered some really bad trigger points in my abdominal muscles. So I read the trigger point therapy manual, and I learned that trigger points in the abs can cause pretty serious digestive ailments (and vice versa).

For years I've been telling them that I thought my low back pain, pelvis pain and stomach issues were all related and they told me it was not and they never even looked into my idea that it could be all related. But of course, my intuition was right. Well, it turns out the rectus abdominous trigger point actually wraps around the ribs and sends pain right into the lower back, along with causing bloating and a whole host of digestive problems.

It's just amazing how much havoc trigger points can create on the body, things we don't even realize. Typical injuries and things like arthritis are commonly misdiagnosed, it's actually just an angry trigger point and all it needs is deep massage to be released.

It's also crazy how muscle imbalances and posture can really lead to trigger points.
For example, I used to think my shoulder pain was due to the trigger point in the infraspinatus muscle, which is near the shoulder blade. But that's only part of the story. The trigger point is also exasperated because my pecs and the subscapularis are too tight, which basically means there's an imbalance.

I'm starting to realize that during badminton, I use my core a lot, doing an insane amount of abdominal twists. Now I think the problem stems from my hips being too tight, which causes the abs and obliques to not be able to perform right which in turn angers the low back and erector spinae muscles, and that connects to the chest and subscapularis which connects to my shoulders.

I think it's the movement of spinal rotation that is causing my trigger points to continue to flare up, but I'm not sure why.

When I view my body mechanics and posture, everything seems fine, the only areas that need work are I have 0 flexibility with hip external rotation, and 0 flexibility in the calves, and also some limited flexibility when it comes to shoulder extension. I'm going to see a chiropractor soon to see if maybe the trigger points keep flaring up due to a structural issues, and he might be able to tell me if he can see any obvious muscle imbalances too.

Sorry for the huge rant, I'm just very passionate about trigger point therapy. It is very amazing, and I really wish more professionals knew about it, it would have saved me years and years of pain and anguish if I had found out about it much sooner.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:25 AM
shiningstars shiningstars is offline
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Thanks for sharing this, and all your other positive, vibrant posts, dear keokutah.

I'll look into trigger point therapy - is your experience that many disciplines know about it e.g. physiotherapist/massage therapists.


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Old 03-03-2017, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by shiningstars
Thanks for sharing this, and all your other positive, vibrant posts, dear keokutah.

I'll look into trigger point therapy - is your experience that many disciplines know about it e.g. physiotherapist/massage therapists.



All of the physios and chiropracters and massage therapists I've been to have very limited knowledge about it, but it seems they're starting to embrace it more. It seems to be a relatively new thing.

I learned about it from this amazing book that I definitely recommend! https://www.amazon.ca/Trigger-Point-...therapy+manual
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:20 PM
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Ha...I had an MD send a patient to me for massage...along with a form
to track his Trigger points on a chart.
Next thing you know i was asked to come to his office...he had sent that form
and patients to many other LMTs and and so far i had been the only one that
not only knew what to do, but got them all exact.
When I told him the School I had gone to decades earlier...he hit his
hand on his desk and said that is the best school in the country.
I said, I knew it was good when i went there, but did not know that!
I mean the A&P teacher was a retired MD Harvard med. professor.

Back then it was called Neuromuscular Therapy..maybe still is...NMT.

I have 2 thick text books $100 each written by Pres Kennedy's
physician just on trigger points...remember he had terrible pain from a PT boat accident.
She said they are one of the most misdiagnosed things. Janet Travell, MD...
I see on amazon they now sell for $150, ha.

I can press on a part of the calf !...and your TMJ will go away....jaw pain.

Yes...it is more than amazing stuff!

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Old 05-03-2017, 12:04 AM
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:17 AM
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this makes me think that "just apply consciousness" is a common cure for all sorts of issues, and of course there are many kinds of consciousness so to speak.. sometimes something just requires proper attention and it can unravel or reveal the reality of itself so it can be sorted out. but other times there need to be multiple levels or types of consciousness applied.

on that note, I couldn't help but think of the ethereal body as some define it and how it directly relates to the physical body. I heard that different areas of this body house different emotions and issues. things like crystal tone therapy, or sound therapy in general, mental or psychic attention, and physical manipulation like as with trigger point therapy can all help facilitate deep healing. also I suppose I should have automatically thought of my favorite healing technique upon mere mention of trigger point therapy but I wasn't reminded of it til now; that is EFT Emotional Freedom Technique.

EFT involves tapping on different points of the body, mostly on the face, upper chest, and hands. Another adaptation I read a book about called ESM Emotional Self Management, gets more specific for different issues and a variety of protocols call for tapping on set points depending on the problem or emotion rather than repeating the same points in totality which most EFT modalities do. ESM also incorporates other things like humming, eye rolling (derivative of another successful healing technique called EMDR- Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing), counting and such. which is one of the reasons I started thinking "just add consciousness" was a worthwhile philosophy since so many things humans can naturally do or consume are capable of wonderful healing and evolution.

Anyhow, so EFT also involves affirmations or thought field therapy. Basically you pick an issue you want to address, an emotion or pain that is bothering you. It can be extremely simple but can also get complex. Often when doing the tapping you bring up older or related issues and the goal I guess is to get to the bottom or root issue involved with the problem. It clears the way so healing can commence and increase understanding in a precious way.

There are all kinds of potential variations though, and the intensity of trigger point therapy could be combined to make the tapping portion more potent I imagine, or the mindfulness factor could make the trigger point therapy more successful. I just want to add that EFT has a lot of validity established through scientific research studies. which I find amazing, but then again once I started digging, I saw almost everything natural related to human beings is healing lol. Some of the studies of note are success cases of mental disorders like depression, anxiety, ocd, phobias and so on. there are also some about more mundane seeming things like making people better athletes and artists, improving recovery time and relieving pain and so on. and there is some investigation into brain waves or whatever that kind of technology is where they can actually see how the EFT effects the brain activity and chemistry, improving it amazingly
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Old 20-03-2020, 04:27 AM
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I don't know why TP is still so unknown even among LMT ? It may have to do with it being something you can do on your own with racket balls at lacrosse balls so anything that can be done at home gets swept under the rug? Idk.
A good thing to add to your trigger point is myofascial release so that the TP doesn't return as quickly but unfortunately I see so many LMT that say they are doing "myofascial release " but it's just a painful deep tissue . The fascia has the tensile strength of steel and so rubbing it fast is only going to make the client scream lol but it also has creep just like your ligaments do so the way you get it to release is by going sssllllooooowwwww and man you will feel like you upgraded your body when you are done you can feel the increase in mind muscle connection and range of motion it increased by alot as well.
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