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Old 02-03-2021, 01:19 AM
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Putting aside that in my opinion when it comes to, at least, Hebrew scripture the King James Version is not part of any list of most accurate translations, I would also like to direct you to this article regarding so-called removed verses from Christian scripture.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_verses_not_
included_in_modern_English_translations
Yes, as a matter of fact I saw that wiki link. Thanks :)
Well, I'm right with ya on the KJV.
I like the Jerusalem Bible and NJB, a lot...that doesn't mean anything, of course.
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Old 02-03-2021, 01:45 AM
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In Hebrew, two Hebrew words that do not have a Greek nor a English word for them, constantly get mis-translated. The first Hebrew word sounds in Hebrew like Elohim and the other word is Yahweh.

Most new translations have removed HELL, which for some of us, was long in coming.

There's a saying:

Traduttore, traditore.

The translator is a traitor.

It often applies.
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Old 02-03-2021, 02:05 AM
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How does that apply to the Hebrew sounding word Elohim and Yahweh not having a corresponding word in Greek and English?

What I was implying was they should not have translated those words with a word that when translated back to Hebrew would be the same Hebrew word.

Those words should have been translated like AMEN is. In almost all languages, AMEN sounds like the Hebrew word which is pronounced something like AMEN.
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Old 02-03-2021, 02:08 AM
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Yes, as a matter of fact I saw that wiki link. Thanks :)
Well, I'm right with ya on the KJV.
I like the Jerusalem Bible and NJB, a lot...that doesn't mean anything, of course.
There is a whole thread devoted to these 'abnormalities'.

You can find them here:
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=134009
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Old 02-03-2021, 02:47 AM
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There is a whole thread devoted to these 'abnormalities'.

You can find them here:
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=134009
Hey thanks.
You know as the op ---you can at anytime get this thread back in a
direction you'd like!!!
Like you just did...hahaha
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Old 02-03-2021, 02:56 AM
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There's a saying:
Traduttore, traditore.
The translator is a traitor.
It often applies.
Impressive.
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Old 02-03-2021, 02:59 AM
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How does that apply to the Hebrew sounding word Elohim and Yahweh not having a corresponding word in Greek and English?
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Those words should have been translated like AMEN is. In almost all languages, AMEN sounds like
the Hebrew word which is pronounced something like AMEN.
Good of you you would bring up sounding,
cuz , yes ---that's what it's about; the sound.
They don't teach that in church!
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Old 02-03-2021, 04:35 PM
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Re - Big John's question.
Here are some things of interest:
In 1604, England's King James I authorized a new translation of the Bible aimed at settling some thorny religious
differences in his kingdom—and solidifying his own power. But in seeking to prove his own supremacy, King James ended up democratizing the Bible instead.

"The NIV and ESV has also now removed 45 complete verses - found in the KJV."

Martin Luther in the 1500s removed 7 books from the Bible.

What verses have been removed from the Bible?
Some of the16 omitted verses
  • (1) Matthew 17:21.
  • (2) Matthew 18:11.
  • (3) Matthew 23:14.
  • (4) Mark 7:16.
  • (5 & 6) Mark 9:44 & 9:46.
  • (7) Mark 11:26.
  • (8) Mark 15:28.
  • (9) Luke 17:36.
http://www.anointedlinks.com/niv_omissions.html
This is why I don't have an NIV in my house.
I never knew this before I was clued in!

Most accurate translations -I have all but, NET. ;)
NASB
ESV
NET
KJV
NKJV


Another good link:
https://faithfoundedonfact.com/the-5...-translations/

Thank you, Miss Hepburn.
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Old 02-03-2021, 04:44 PM
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Kashmir Shaivism talks a lot about it. From a general overview to more direct practices.
Kashmir Shaivism - The Nine Types Of Grace Of Siva
Understand that there is no difference between Lord Siva and a realized being.
Rare is the Guru
Group Energy Practice - The Dive - A Historical Teaching
The Doctrine of Vibration - Direct Introduction

The above are just some examples of much more advanced means of helping someone.

More common energy practices would be something like a pranayama practice in Hinduism or tummo in Buddhism. Vase breathing is a pranayama/energy practice for instance. Probably the most well known is Nadi Shidoni for example.
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