When is it real?

If I got this right, and please correct me if I am wrong, I don't mind, learning here, there are different levels of dreams, sleeping state, at least so it feels for me.

I have had dreams where the touch of things and people feel very, very real, and it is somewhat different to wake up from these dreams than the others.

These real sensation of touch - is it then real? Is it for instance something created by someone, lets say a furniture, and the people there, are they real, from their own dreams, astral projections?

[CosmicWonder]

Maybe you have a very strong mind. It can be as real as real that way

[one-light]

I believe you can touch and feel in lucid dreams - I had so many lucid dreams over recent years making decisions - and the post I put here where I teleported to 30 years ago, I remember walking and this young lady was smiling as I came walking towards her in the pub - as I passed I put my hand on her shoulder, I remember feeling the warmth through her slim jumper as I passed. A Guide and she knew I was there when no one else did.

So if you're into lucid dreaming, you're a step closer to AP...

[Apakhana Akshobhya]

The dreaming brain will sense the same way it does when awake. As the senses turn off the brain says "ok now it's time to build a Dreamworld from the data that got put here while awake."

The big jump from lucid dreaming to leaving the body and it's dreaming brain seems to occur when awareness starts to not only look past the boundary of the body but also the boundary of the mind, letting us escape the dream.

In either state, the awareness can seemingly experience what is happening very intensely! 😀

It can't be unreal if it was experienced, it can only be judged as dream or not. It's not that "touch" is real or not in your example, it obviously happened, so the important issue is that it was experienced in a different state of consciousness than the usual waking state. It's a great sign that a person is wakeful towards their perception so in these altered states of perceiving some important work can be done towards some realizations.

The feeling of sensory "realness" isn't built on what people would guess... It's more bizarre than that. If it was built on requirement that an actual "not me" external object had to be touched then how is it that a non physical, non existent dream object produced the sensation?

Hinting at something else, it requires some understanding a few things that aren't usually talked about much because of the confusion it can cause. Needless to say, there's a strong connection to a specific something which was carried through from waking to your dreaming state and if maintained can become a powerful anchor or dream totem to use in the future 😎

Thank you all so very much for the insights :)

[Addicted2Success]

Yes is very real.

Consciousness is the basis of reality, and everything is virtual realities.

You (as an individual consciousness) have current multiple bodies in multiple dimensions (or virtual realities) in order to operate, touch, perceive in them.

If you become an objective & logical out of body explorer, you will see that's how reality works.

Peace.

[astralsuzy]

Originally Posted by Addicted2Success

Yes is very real. You (as an individual consciousness) have current multiple bodies in multiple dimensions (or virtual realities) in order to operate, touch, perceive in them.

Through experience I have found the same thing. I realize I am likely to have multiple bodies. When you feel things it is just like feeling things in the physical. It is very real.

Thank you both so for sharing :)

[Podshell]

One experiment I thought up but have not got round to trying yet is to make a number of large cards say about twenty,put bold coloured simple designs on each of these,such as big red triangle,big blue circle,black star and yellow square,during the day lay these face down on your bed and mix them up without looking at what is on front ,pick three at random still not looking then cover your eyes and lift the cards to a wardrobe top or shelf flipping them over and laying them flat in a line,you can then test yourself at night when you project as you can see if you got them correct in the morning,if you keep doing it you should get a feel for projection reality,semi-reality and dreaming (from an earlier presmably succesful similar type experiment I noted that colours can differ in astral,shapes can distort if you glance too long and a few other problems)

[dream jo]

I have learnt to keep a dream diary when I wake up I get it broke down straight away in case I forget it and I know it makes sense now some of the dreams I had last year at cinema this year on the same thing on the same date I think it's something but dreams an be so real it's hard to believe me dream it