Is mediumship the actual liberation in Christianity?

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

I haven't accepted anything, I will see what's next!

You have accepted it for now....

You're funny because you seem to want to categorize and label things, but that's not how things work for me. Life is flowing, things happen, I just let go and live.

I'm glad you find me funny - making folk smile is something I like to do.

I'm not alone in categorizing or labeling. This world provides innumerable instances of the way humankind in general categorizes what happens. It's the way we can 'get a handle' on the myriad matters we experience.

Of course life flows but categorisation does not change that. Whether or not you choose not to categorise what has happened for you does not actually change anything one jot.

Categorisation is simply a way of comparing and contrasting activities that are similar and activities that are different. Doing it does not constrain them in any sense.

[BigJohn]

I hope you are not referencing to the word Medium as a word that has 'demonstrably changed' because there are many today who apparently use the word as it appears to have been originally used. As for the word Medium, how has it been 'demonstrably changed'?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

Agreed, and native languages too! In French there is no differentiation between psychic and medium, all psychic people (even with just a few siddhis) would be considered "medium", and in common terms people would say "voyant" (clairvoyant, but literally someone who can see) for any of them.

NICE POINTS
Trying to grasp the word Siddhi brings about a better understanding about 'what is going on'. Unfortunately, Siddhis are looked down by most people and those who have experience Siddhi are often ridiculed.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

Agreed, and native languages too! In French there is no differentiation between psychic and medium, all psychic people (even with just a few siddhis) would be considered "medium", and in common terms people would say "voyant" (clairvoyant, but literally someone who can see) for any of them.

Foreign words often get adopted and then are attributed with additional or new meanings. In mediumship the terms 'clairvoyant', 'clairaudient', 'clairsentient' are now used (at least in the UK) to denote the kind of mediumship being used.

Hence a 'clairvoyant medium' is someone able to 'see' a spirit communicator hence can describe what's seen to a sitter as one form of evidence of identity. Whatever its literal meaning in French might be, in connection with mediumship it has a specific meaning.

I suppose 'clairvoyant' could equally be appended to a psychic (or sensitive) to become 'a clairvoyant psychic' to signify someone able to see a spirit communicator. I haven't ever seen it used like that though.

Through all this it's helpful to remember this maxim: "All mediums are psychic but being psychic doesn't necessarily make you a medium."

[BigJohn]

Surprising: when I google "All mediums are psychic but being psychic doesn't necessarily make you a medium."

It comes back "No results found for [above expression]"

Is that the exact wording of the expression?

[Guillaume]

Gooood morning!

Originally Posted by bobjob

You have accepted it for now....

Yes, the Now of yesterday is passed, today is another day!

Originally Posted by bobjob

Categorisation is simply a way of comparing and contrasting activities that are similar and activities that are different. Doing it does not constrain them in any sense.

Mmmh I understand your viewpoint, but your contradict yourself with the previous sentence I think: "you have accepted for now" is constraining me in the interpretation of this life experience.
"For now" makes you irreproachable, it's not a definitive judgement you're making, but the tone, the underlying intention is to freeze things.
Which is very understandable, I mean it's one of our basic fears, things change, we'd like them to be more stable.
Let go!

I will see, in a few weeks months I will look back and say "oh, that was nothing", or "yes, that was a turning point".

[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Is that the exact wording of the expression?

That's bobjob's world, there is no equivalent :)

Originally Posted by bobjob

Through all this it's helpful to remember this maxim: "All mediums are psychic but being psychic doesn't necessarily make you a medium."

I understand, you see mediumship as an evolved version of psychicness.

I suppose 'clairvoyant' could equally be appended to a psychic (or sensitive) to become 'a clairvoyant psychic' to signify someone able to see a spirit communicator. I haven't ever seen it used like that though.

You get a point here I think, it's close to the wording in French. And to me it's because clairvoyance is the relevant one.
If we think in terms of chakras, once the 3rd eye is fully working and active, it's easier - I think - to focus the awareness below than trying to focus on the 3rd eye if the energy is stuck below.
It's just in the order of things, how the energy rises.

However, and I could be an example of that, and many scientific minds could be as well: if we constantly focus on higher chakras, we may miss a lot from our heart or throat.
It's like being visionary with no ground. The desert, that's what my intuitions tells me now.

So there could be mediums that are very poor psychics.

Originally Posted by Guillaume

Okay okay, so it's not about Christianity, and I'm not an official medium, which I absolutely don't care lol
It's just my story, my liberation.

It's not liberation either, if you really cared about liberation you'd find out what it really was instead of fooling yourself. This is why people redefining things to suit their mentality is a really bad idea.

So this thread goes the way the premonitions thread goes, based on confusion and wandering in the desert.

[Native spirit]

This is going off topic the title thread is mediumship the actual liberation in Christianity. please keep to topic


Namaste

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

Mmmh I understand your viewpoint, but your contradict yourself with the previous sentence I think: "you have accepted for now" is constraining me in the interpretation of this life experience.

I can not constrain you if I categorise based on what you say about yourself - YOU may be doing it to yourself though.