A Tale of Forever Our World

I gave a brief outline on my beliefs on the non duality and general beliefs threads, obviously I left a lot out, but then again, it's just a theory. It may be wrong. I'd like to see Bartholomew's teachings on this to give me some sort of clarification and to see if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

[bartholomew]

A few more days please. Bart might be wrong too but I promise it will be good reading.

Originally Posted by hazada guess

I gave a brief outline on my beliefs on the non duality and general beliefs threads, obviously I left a lot out, but then again, it's just a theory. It may be wrong. I'd like to see Bartholomew's teachings on this to give me some sort of clarification and to see if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

Thanks James/Bartholomew.

[bartholomew]

Originally Posted by lostsoul13

We are all on different journeys and you can’t get relevant than relevant- there’s only so many ways we die - and reincarnation is the biggest narcissistic there is—- but why do we reincarnate??? We are serving our higher selfs- was it something we thought?? Maybe- but attraction and silver linings are….

The goal of a human soul is to gain wisdom, all that our Earth can offer, and then to be raised up to begin new experiences in spiritual evolution. Knowledge can be gained while in the spiritual worlds but not so wisdom. This quality results only from meeting and overcoming adversity. This and this alone, is the reason we have to be here on Earth. In the spiritual words we cannot experience adversity. Only on a physical planet where spiritual separation is greatest are these opportunities available. This is the reason we are all here.

[bartholomew]

Part 2 The human life, lower and higher

There are no straight lines in our or any other universe. The traveler, watching out a window of his or her spacecraft, would see only curving lines into the distance. And so, if we could realize it, creation was not a single but a long term series of events that might have even curved back onto itself so to speak. If we could find the very first universe that was ever created and look just a little closer we would see others that are yet older. There is no end. There is no beginning in the incorruptible mind of God, the great I am. We cannot fully understand this only because of the limitations of our minds. Before we can hope to gain any higher understand of God we have to stop thinking in lower dimensional, linear terms. This is achieved only in high meditation. And before we can hope to quantify higher science we will find that the concept of numerical progression as we know it no longer satisfies and must be set aside. Now shall we take the next step?

It was said before that the business of deity is to express. We ask why? Expression is cause, reason, effect and result all together in one beginning-less and endless “scheme”. We humans will not find a better explanation than this. Not because it does not exist but because, for the present, we are given only limited consciousness. We think in three dimensions, sometimes in four or five but seldom higher. These roads are seldom tread even by the greatest of men. Let’s look a little closer now.

Each new universe is imbued with God’s Intelligent Design which, in the common tongue, we might call the paths of evolution. This means, simply, that creation is not static but dynamic. But we do not refer to any limited, (biological life) only evolution. No. Here evolution means the constant change of all mater, spiritual, non-spiritual and even super-spiritual (God head). Now…. Consider this.

The purpose of God’s expressiveness is eventual expansion of the “I am”. The next point is essential. It is not possible to create high spiritual beings equal to God. No. As we learned, we heard so many times before, the measure of spiritual achievement is wisdom and this quality cannot be given, even god to god. It must be earned. This last sentence is a key of vital importance. We have learned about evolution. This idea then is the reason why evolution is so essential. God expands by creating that which will become first the lesser (knowing) but which will later become the greater (wise). Eventually, returning to the higher paths, groups of these then join with (return to) “the Father (in completion). How often have we heard references to this?

Now, shall we begin?

There are two great cycles of life, the lessor and the greater. We hear so much of the first but so little of the second. Indeed, I have never read or heard of the greater at all save references to “ascending or going to heaven”. As one might expect there is much, much more.

Physical evolution begins as simple elemental particles which become complex, then form into molecules. This process has been spoken of. After long eons a star is born which perhaps becomes the body of manifestation of a great Manasic being, the “god” to it’s body of expression (it’s solar system). This is not true of all stars, only a comparative few (many are called, few are chosen). The presence of a Manasic god is what makes a star of planet “sacred”. At this point we find intelligent activity on the super-spiritual, the spiritual of many degrees and finally the ethereal-physical. Extend this now to a bit further and visualize the god of our solar system looking out over the family of primordial planets and finding it “to be good”. What happens next? Consider the following.

Just above we see an example of the lesser lives of creation engaged in the work which will proceed the greater. And now the mystery of humanity is brought to center stage. Do we remember that it has been proposed that the whole of creation is naught but a long series of life cycles, lesser and greater? It is true. In short, for benefit of the reader, we will recount this process.

Human souls are born of the lesser gods (sun gods) that exist. They are given the task of growing through expressions in the lowest of all the planes, the physical, with it’s associated heavens and, through hard experience gaining the heights where only the wise can go. They, the souls (born to the, and made of Mental plane matter) can gain knowledge on their own plane but wisdom results only through the meeting and overcoming of adversity through hard experience. The lower spiritual worlds are arranged in “layers” each, in a sense, isolated from others. The word “discrimination” is appropriate to use here. In plain terms it means that human souls, on their own plane, must exist with others of like positions in evolution. They may only intermingle for short periods of time with those of differing levels. The can learn but unless they live on physical/emotional worlds they will never gain the wisdom which is so necessary. Only the wise attain the higher plateaus though. These things have been stated many times in other of Bartholomew’s writing. They are only recounted here to reaffirm their validity.

If we may now fast forward we will find that after souls have gained all the wisdom that a planet can offer it finally ascends but to where exactly. What does this really mean? Previously this has been hinted at through statements such as “Human souls, now having return to group formats, will be given to opportunity to leave the Earth or to stay near, in service”. In the following we will take a closer look at those who leave.

Human souls are born to groups, learn individuality, live thousands of lives on a planet and then, finally, re-join in group forms in preparation to leave. This means that the god has created souls which eventually “die” to that source and depart but to where? Here is the beginning of one of the greatest of all mysteries.

Human beings in the lower expression are individuals living on physical worlds. Here they remain until they achieve that level of wisdom which allows them to literally ascend and leave the need for further incarnations behind. This process, this great event, is the true esoteric meaning of the phrase “being saved” of the believer. It is to be noted that when this occurs we humans have also left behind the need for individuality. When we leave the lower cycles behind we do so once again as groups of human souls. But what then?

Some of these groups stay with their home planet in service roles. These make up the body of souls who are known to exist in the heavens of planets. Those who are with our planet, the Earth, are sometimes called “the spiritual hierarchy of the planet”. There are others with Earth too but they are fewer in number. But here are, too, many higher, post human, souls. These are they who have long since left human evolution behind.

Those groups of human souls who choose to leave their home planets after completing the long cycle of rebirths will travel to distant worlds, those yet in the early formative stages where they will take up residence in the heavens established for them. Here they will be responsible for the guidance, the hands on, evolutionary processes of that planet. In other words they will serve as a kind of cadre staff of what will later become that world’s hierarchy. Mind you in this case the world in question will not yet have grown to the point where human life in the physical is possible. This is a vital aspect of the ongoing work of creation.

The last and perhaps the most interesting of all of the higher, human groups of souls are those who travel to new universes which are only then being formed. These will serve in solar systems which are to have planets which upon which new families of human beings will evolve, to take shape even as we found primitive mankind with their legends here on Earth. These will be assigned to a planet which is not yet ready but which is in the period of evolution whereat biological life is beginning. At this stage in the life of a planet these human souls will guide the workers spirits which have been created by the solar “god” to that new world. When we hear of the processes of evolution on Earth we may be certain that it is caused by all of these, together. The direction of a planet is guided by the intelligent collective mind of the guiding hierarchy inhabiting the heavens of that planet. But there is more, much more to this story.

To be continued

Absolutely fascinating. Words don't express how much your and Bartholomew's writings mean to me.So many gaps are being filled.

[bartholomew]

Part 3 A simplified version of what is presented in Part 2.


There are an unknown number of universes all existing on the very same ethereal plane but separated by vast distances. So vast that they are each undetectable from another. The whole of them all is a single three dimensional plane.

Everything in creation is cyclic.

Universes are of differing ages. As one is created in it’s primordial form, others are post maturity, eventually returning to the higher spiritual planes from whence they came long before. In this we again find the unending works caused by the Will of the creator. As each universe returns so does it’s bounty of wisdom which then adds to the expressiveness of the source. It is no more than evolution on a grand scale.

Looking more closely at a new universe we find it’s Manasic plane quite active. Is this plane also newly created? Yes. The Manasic beings are called upon by God’s angels to come from older universes to begin the work for which they have long experience in older universes. A group of Gods, then, is made of unknowable high groups of human souls that have long since left behind the need for incarnations on physical worlds. “Ye shall become as gods…” is an appropriate quote here. Here is another way to view this process.

We humans look forward to the time when we will finally leave it all behind, joining with the Father, the Creator. Manasic beings have not yet accomplished this. They are beginning what will be the last evolutionary life preceding that stupendous final ascension which will see them leave behind the created worlds and, passing the barrier, be raised up to the Divine. Of this there is much more.

Imagine our solar system as it was some time after it’s beginnings, when the planets had settled into their orbits. Our system was now formed to the point whereat Manasic beings (gods) were attracted. Why? Why would these gods come here? Because our system was one designated to be home to human souls. All such systems need special preparations. The messengers of god, the angels brought this news to the high universal Manasic. One of these great beings then assumed the duties of the god embodied by our sun. Another hovers near to what will later become the mature planet Saturn. Both these orbs now are elevated to “sacred” status. This, because of the roles they will play in the future.

Much later in the life of the solar system, when the Earth is ready, it’s Ethereal plane is expanded to include the Astral and Mental. It is now firmly linked to the heavens of the sun. At this point a call emits from our sun to the higher, universal Manasic. In response somewhat lesser groups of post human souls are brought to the Earth where they will form into groups identified by the work to be done. This event was the beginning of what esotericists now call the hierarchy of our planet. It is these groups of high post human soul groups, subordinate to the Manasic, who have the responsibility for controlling the evolution of the Earth. In short it is because of their activities that our planet is so much different from others in our solar system. The worker spirits of the Earth, the ones who actually interface with the Ethereal and Physical are now created and set to work guiding our planet in accordance with the will of our god so that it will eventually become suitable for occupation by new human souls in the physical. The workers then are under direct control of certain of the hierarchical groups. And now the time came when the Earth was ready and new human souls were “created” in the areas of our planetary heavens that we now call the high mental plane.


Summary

In it’s simplest terms the story of creation is one of the evolution of the soul of the smallest sub-atomic particle ever upwards to the status of the highest possible in the created universe, the Manasic. Or, stated another way, the gods of the Manasic began their journeys untold ages ago in other universes as the smallest bits of spiritual expressiveness, a single soul of a single particle.

The soul of a physical object is it’s Ethereal counterpart. As the particle grows and becomes more complex, moving kingdom to kingdom, it eventually achieves the status of a human soul. This moment is referred to by esotericists as the birth of the human soul.

Human souls continue and with the very same objective as before. They seek the wisdom which is available to them on the planes upon which they function. In the case of the human soul this includes all the planes of a planet up to and including the Mental with a certain cognitive ability on perhaps two higher. One of these would later become the Buddhic. And after the soul achieves all that it can, finishing it’s cycle of physical lives, it joins with other souls and, in groups now, ascend to knowingly join the spiritual hierarchy of the planet where it will assume certain duties. But this is not the end.

Groups of souls, having earned the right to decide now, their future paths, may stay with the planet in service or they may leave going elsewhere where new challenges await. But this too, is not the end. It is only one more on a long journey of beginnings.

Groups of souls now ascend further and join the outer areas of the highest of the created planes, the Manasic. Here they begin to learn by walking the highest paths available in creation. They, in larger groups now, are, we might say, in training to become gods. But now another change of direction.

When a new universe is created there is a great need for these very advanced post human souls to “staff” the new worlds that suddenly have come into being. So… Groups of these high souls are sent from elsewhere to worlds such as our Earth. It is this reasoning, this mechanism, that was responsible for the appearance of our planetary spiritual hierarchy. And at the head of this vast grouping is the master of masters which has been called by the Greeks “the anointed one” or “Christos, the Christ”. This summary is not meant to suggest the primacy of any religion but because of the relationship between the Earth and the sun we find a certain very valid correlation in the Head of our planetary hierarchy and the idea of a son of (our sun) god. To better understand all of this it is suggested that the reader select his or her own words when referencing these high beings. No matter the name or title it is this great being who serves as our link to the great one whose body of expression is our sun. There are also angels in attendance. More about them in a future part.

So do we see now the story of a soul from it’s humble beginnings in Ethereal plane expression to it’s near conclusion as a member of a post human group on the outer fringes of the Manasic plane.

To review, a soul is no more than the spiritual counterpart to some lower plane form. Always aspiring higher from the smallest sub-atomic particle, through the human kingdom, to the beginnings of the highest plane of the created universe, the Manasic, a soul moves, always evolving, ever growing in preparation with eventual reunion with the source on the Divine. This is the story of the expressiveness of God (the business of deity).

Before we end this story we will take a moment to speak of those other Manasic beings who are the life of our sacred planet, Saturn. Do we remember the moment of choice given those advanced souls, those who have completed the long incarnating rounds? Some will stay and some will leave. In the above we have seen a bit about the paths in distant realms but for those who choose to stay with the Earth, in service, a time of preparation on Saturn is next. In truth there are tens of millions of human beings living, right now, on Saturn. These are not in the physical though but in the astral and above planes which surround that planet. Here they practice what they’ve learned while incarnating on Earth but in addition learn the skills inherent in the functionality of the various higher planes of our system. In other words these find themselves more directly in training, specifically to become gods to worlds like our Earth. As one might expect there is much more to this story. Another time perhaps. But for now visualize the balancing effect between the sun and Saturn. Now watch the Earth respond to the great benevolence which radiates out from that combination.

In all of the above little has been said of the roles of angels. This will be remedied in the next and perhaps final part in this series. We will watch as angels perform other duties some near and some far distant but all directly concerned with our solar system.

And why is the above considered science? Because to discover it’s secrets the disciplined investigator must move forward always testing what has been suspected. Unlike physical science though the laws governing these newly discovered landscapes are often unlike any that have come before. This means that is is an error to try to move through the spiritual planes using physical plane mechanics. In other words our planetary physics do not apply. This is the reason mainstream science has yet to quantify what has, in many cases, been long suspected.

For those who have found this series of interest we ask that you maintain your patience. Part 4 will discuss the advent of human beings on our planet.

To be continued…

[bartholomew]

Part 4 The peopling of our planet

Only in those spiritual planes associated with the created universes and the physical does the flow of time exist. Here there are beginnings and endings. In order to convey a better meaning we try to avoid those terms where they cause consternation. We use instead the idea of “forever” Thus the name of the story. A Tale of Forever.

We have learned that even the smallest subatomic particle has a spiritual counterpart an ethereal body which sustains, link it to it’s origins, through which it nourished. We have seen that as the physical universe through it’s various laws evolved and became more complex so, too, did the lower spiritual worlds of souls. In time the settings were correct on various planets and biological life was introduced. For simplicity let’s just speak of our own planet though. Now more than the Ethereal is required and so the slightly higher beginnings of the Astral were given life. Let’s not forget that even in the earliest days of the universe the Manasic world did exist and that it was home to those great ones who would, among other things, take on a body of expression, a physical star such as our sun. Remember too that this was the origin of our ancient belief in a Sun God. It was this guiding and creative center in our solar system which was responsible for creating, causing to “be” our various planetary spiritual planes. Then, when our world saw the beginnings of biological life the great one, our sun took from itself a small portion of it’s own spiritual vitality, slowed it until it was ready. This action is the source of our planet’s Astral, Mental and other planes which are arranged in a series of concentric shells around the physical planet. And now each bit of biological life, even at the smallest unit level, had a true soul, more vital than the Ethereal only, through which the continuation of the species could be sustained. Now our planet saw the beginnings of biological evolution. Shall we fast forward to much later?

At a certain time the world was well peopled with vegetable and animal forms. The time was right for the introduction of the higher family of souls, the human. At this point in the story of the Earth a most interesting thing happens. Our planet’s governing body, the hierarchy of souls, prepared for the advent of the “creation” of human souls. The sources for these were three fold. From among themselves, from among those of the sacred planet Saturn and, later, from afar. More about this third category later. In the beginning, then, physical forms had, under guidance of the ever watching planetary hierarchy, gradually developed, shaped by the planet’s directed evolutionary fires, into forms that would be suitable for the use of these newly fashioned human souls. It is important to note two things here. These newly made human souls were given to inhabit various forms on Earth. Some were bipedal, others not. The criteria were mainly concerned with the capacity of the brains of the animals to be tried. Which would succeed? Many failed. There are certain old stories that speak of those that, today, we call lemurs. For a time human souls were associated with these. It was a practical experience but not one that succeeded. And there were others. For those who cannot agree with such idea we will ask about today’s more advanced animals that seem to have affinities for we humans. Why is this? Is there a set of stories we know little of?

In the formative years of the human family on Earth then, much was learned. Trials, rejections, successes. In the meanwhile the great family of souls in the planetary hierarchy moved always forward. Always. In time the Earth settled for those forms that would later evolve into the modern human beings. This process was a very long one by our reckoning though. It’s beginnings were approximately 150,000,000 years ago. There were several periods of growth followed by failures. And so life on Earth was changeable but progressed, always. But this was proving to be inadequate. A decision was made to accelerate the evolution, to quicken the pace of development, in a spiritual sense, of mankind. Now was the time that we read of in many Earthly religious scriptures. In greatly simplified form these are usually called the creation story.

Those in the spiritual hierarchy of the planet who guide decided to send from among their own ranks, human souls who would serve to teach those very junior souls who were currently embodied on the planet. In this the angels played an important role for it was they who carried these others from distant, more advanced worlds, to Earth for this purpose. This is the story of Adam and Eve.

They were the human prototypes, the archtypals who would bring the already thriving human races to a quicker pace of spiritual development. In this the spiritual components were of greatest importance. To instill in mankind on Earth the beginnings of the knowledge of the heavens in which so much of their destiny was bound and to do it at a greatly accelerated pace. This was the plan and the reason. And so the souls of two more spiritually developed human being were brought to the Earth by an angel and designated to inhabit the form of an Earth produced couple. This was done in a very deliberate, disciplined way. The “new man” would be set aside in an area which was self sustaining but isolated from those older types in the lands around. And here they would create new beginnings and so greatly quicken the pace of evolution of humanity on Earth. And so it was.

A boy and a girl, both at the cusp of physical maturity were selected. They were drawn to each other through some common impulse which caused them to think of leaving the land of their family and to travel southwestward. This they did. Across two rivers and to a valley set between two mountains they were led. And here they seemed to know their new home would be found. Those who watched were pleased and saw that “it was good”. These two, Adam and Eve as they came to be called, were the first designated later as being “chosen” (from among those others, the earlier humans who did live in the Earth in those days). It was this great event in the stories of our beginnings that gave rise to the legends of “a chosen people”. And when the time was right they two were caused to be enveloped in a “sleep”. It was not really sleeping as we know it. It was a deep meditative state induced for the purpose of changing their souls. The lesser would now be exchanged for the greater. In other words now the more spiritually advanced human souls would take on the physical bodies acting as progenitors of the new human beings. It is important to note here that in a physical sense nothing changed. The changes were strictly spiritual. Nonetheless a memory of this event was given to the two that they would ever more recall that “the gods” created them (in the garden). This was a quite stupendous event as it was the beginnings of the idea of a non material god in the minds of man.

Adam and Eve were born, not in perfection, but in innocence. At a certain time in the garden they knew that they would again travel. They had, after all, come here from other lands. They knew they would return. This was given them in the form of strong ideas. They could not refuse. They left the security and peacefulness of this protected, very abundant, valley and went out into the harsh world to find their destiny. This, too, was the plan for them. Reversing their directions they now retraced their steps, returning to the lands of their parents. “Nod”, they came to call it. And when they returned, now bearing two sons with them, they were found to be different from the peoples that they had left some years before. They could speak of things and better understand the questions which surrounded life among the elders. They soon learned to temper their speech. Adam and Eve lived long having many other sons too. These grew to age and took wives from among the elder race. It was at this point in history that another sign was given to mankind. The watchers, knowing that mankind was to walk new paths, would require a means of knowing the older from the newer men. Since they were the same physically it was decided that male circumcision would become the traditional means of discernment, newer from the older types. And so the two sons, Cain and Able, were put to sleep for a time. What was done to them, by their father, Adam, would continue through the ages until the origins, the reasons for the practice, were lost, becoming associated with religious traditions only. It must be stated here that this very factual report was and is not meant to suggest that we see in the world today any particular group, or culture that is in any way superior to another. The old stories are remembered better but that is all. More about this can be learned by any who study ancient customs from almost all parts of the planet. In the beginning it was desired that only the new types of men would endure while the older would wane and diminish. And so in the beginning, in the times when the brothers were building families it was decreed that no woman mate with any of the older types of males. Male circumcision was an easy and unmistakable way to discern the difference. And so it became “the law”.

Note: This edict given at the time by the new types who had, by then, assumed dominance, angered many of the older type males who rose up in war against their rulers. It was this event that gave rise to the story of Cain slaying his brother, the sacrifice in question being the question of obedience to the ordinance. But the effects of this, too, passed in legend which were later remembered as historical stories.

Note: The advent of the higher soul types into human bodies promoted rapid changes of another nature too. Where before the human animal was possessed of more fully developed instinctual behaviors which were passed, generation to generation, now the man would be less so able but become more reliant upon his ability to think and reason in a higher sense of the word. This was the principal distinction between the two and it was the new souls that made if happen. It was a time of two beginnings then. Now the more capable human souls would find a vehicle of expression and the new bodies would reflect this. Even so this is not a racial issue per se it is true that some older types are still with the planet today. But this is another story.

Note: It was at this point in our history that the new men, the homo sapiens, suddenly arose and displaced the older types. The reasoning is yet a mystery to our scientists it was not a matter of race but one of spirituality. In this account the true reasoning is given.

In our narrative we have not mentioned the serpent of the garden at all. The garden itself was representative of the higher livingness, a physical metaphor if you will, of that which was to come. The serpent was, and still is in so many older traditions, representative of the old ways of the Earth. Can we look deeply into this tapestry and discover a truth that endures?

In those days it was in the general area of the southern lands of present day Iraq near to the northern border with Kuwait that this story took place. In those days the lands were green and fertile. The investigator will find the remains of another river, a third one that flowed west to east, under the sands. North of this waterway is where the garden was and to the north of those, into Iraq were found the original peoples of the two souls in the story.

Today we see the new type of human souls around the world present to degrees in all races. This dispersion has been helped by our natural inclination for migrations, land to land. And as time passed the need to adhere to the old mandates has diminished somewhat. It is no longer necessary for the males to be thus marked. But the practice continues. It is the way we humans are. We keep those cultural edits that bring us ideas of “belonging”. We might here cite religious requirements but there are those in certain parts of Africa that continue the practice outside of any religious form.

As always there is more to a story than what is given even in the most elaborate text. Here we provide a background, an essential understand of the events of the spiritual worlds which “caused” our physical planet to take shape. It presumes a willingness on the part of the reader to accept that there really is more to what we sense than what we see. Here our little history ends.

But here we are reminded of the pursuit of our scientists for truth. It is hoped that in the telling the wise among us will find concurrence sufficient to warrant further investigation. Let science agree with history wherever possible.

The next and final part in the “….Forever series” will be an account, in more detail, of the activities of the angles during those times. This, especially, will coincide with what has been given in our history so far. Because it will be told by the Lady, the First Angel, we will revert to the story thread where the familiar format will resume.

The reader who is interested will kindly look to the forum section entitled “Articles and Stories” for the continuation and conclusion of this series.

Thanks to everyone,

Bartholomew

[Unseeking Seeker]

Thanks for sharing, James, Bartholomew

[bartholomew]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

Thanks for sharing, James, Bartholomew

Someday I will return to India, for a visit.