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Old 17-11-2020, 07:23 PM
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You have to read between the lines. There is more than enough food and water and resources to sustain triple the population on the planet. Yet those at the top who pull all the strings deny this to almost half of the world.
I remembered as a child all the donate to this and that foundation to help to starving African/Cambodian nations. 40 years later it is still going on. How? Billions of donated funds over the course of that time would have been more than sufficient to pull the nations out of its current position but it's not and never will be. Not with the current system in place that prevents it from moving forward. for every dollar they would be lucky to see 1 cent. Greed, Power, Corruption are what keeps it stagnant.


When the UN talk about 'sustainable' developments, it is not what you think they are talking about. They paint the picture that makes it sound acceptable, that these steps that are proposed are necessary so the vast majority jump on board and agree to decrease the population for example. The list goes on and on.

You posted this at 12:12 PM my time.


People would donate shoes to Cambodia. The shoes were large shoes so the Cambodians sold them to Thailand for almost nothing. If a person wanted a pair of big shoes, never worn at a cheap price..........

One of the times I went to Cambodia, officials from Australia were ahead of me. They entered the country with out any problems. As for me, I was assessed an amount that was equal to me and the number of Australians times the normal bribe plus a little bit more.
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Old 17-11-2020, 07:25 PM
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I agree BigJohn. Who would believe Simon Says wear a mask, no get-togethers, 6 feet apart, can't see extended family members curfews in some places, lockdowns in others, close businesses (again!). Who would have thunk we would have become so compliant.

We were conditioned as little kids to play .... Simon says.
Now all Simon has to say is "Simon says" and we jump to action.

As for me, I looked behind the curtain and was surprised to see........
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Old 17-11-2020, 07:29 PM
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Regardless whether you're for, against or an undecided fence-sitter, All I offer is something to look at and for you to make up your own mind. Even though some of you already have, The writing is literally on the wall. Stop and read it. You may or may not get something out of it.

All of this makes me depressed.

Where am I going to get the money to buy a well used long hauling bus that has storage bins underneath for luggage?

If I am going to get with the program, I got to get the bus, put batteries down in the storage compartments, and turn the bus into an electric bus so I can make 3-4 runs to Mexico so people can go over the border and have a hamburger.
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Old 17-11-2020, 07:30 PM
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Let me see............

weapons were outlawed a long time ago in Japan which brought forth what we call ....................

There I go again, talking to myself.
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Old 17-11-2020, 07:31 PM
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You have to read between the lines. There is more than enough food and water and resources to sustain triple the population on the planet. Yet those at the top who pull all the strings deny this to almost half of the world.
I remembered as a child all the donate to this and that foundation to help to starving African/Cambodian nations. 40 years later it is still going on. How? Billions of donated funds over the course of that time would have been more than sufficient to pull the nations out of its current position but it's not and never will be. Not with the current system in place that prevents it from moving forward. for every dollar they would be lucky to see 1 cent. Greed, Power, Corruption are what keeps it stagnant.


When the UN talk about 'sustainable' developments, it is not what you think they are talking about. They paint the picture that makes it sound acceptable, that these steps that are proposed are necessary so the vast majority jump on board and agree to decrease the population for example. The list goes on and on.

I still haven't learned why you think sustainable development is a bad thing.

By the way, we do have too many people on our planet. It might not be apparent in rural Australia but I can tell you here in Europe many regions are overpopulated. If we spread out more it'll just mean more pressure on wildlife, which happens to be mentioned in that 1992 document too.

Do you want a world with only humans or is there also still space left for a diverse, fascinating world? Maybe hard to think about if rural Australia is the place to start with. Just because tackling overpopulation can be unethical (such as through a one-child policy) does not mean there isn't a problem of overpopulation.

That's what's missing with conspirators. Some talk about stuff but stay on the surface. I'm still waiting for a person here who actually gets it on multiple levels, not just being a red or a blue, right or left, etc. It gets tedious on here, discussions stagnate because of it.
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Old 17-11-2020, 07:31 PM
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I've seen the hot new conspiracy crazes come and go, and I guess some UN document has enlivened wild imaginings because people like getting all wound up. They are always banging on about one thing or the other, and when that's done with the next one comes along, so I don't worry about it - it's just people making more noise.
Why those disagreeing with your opinion are conspiracy crazes, and not those whom you agree with? Actually the noise is made by the gullibles.
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Old 17-11-2020, 07:56 PM
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The arrest of an Iranian champion disabled bodybuilder for allegedly merely questioning why gyms are closed while Muslim shrines remain open amid the coronavirus pandemic has sparked calls for his execution by a regime cleric.
Is this coming to us/US too? Fauci on latest coronavirus surge: 'Now is the time to do what you're told'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...1c7_video.html
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Old 17-11-2020, 08:13 PM
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''Do as I say'' is a fear-based reaction. What happens with the c19 strategies ((you being told what to do, what to wear, where to go)) is also happening with all the woke nonsense going on. Big Tech wants us all to have the same opinions, Google wants all of us to read the NY Times and CNN. Big Tech, MSM, and globalist progressives are all big pals of one another. All the same values. All of em despise freedom of speech.
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Old 17-11-2020, 08:50 PM
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I still haven't learned why you think sustainable development is a bad thing.

By the way, we do have too many people on our planet. It might not be apparent in rural Australia but I can tell you here in Europe many regions are overpopulated. If we spread out more it'll just mean more pressure on wildlife, which happens to be mentioned in that 1992 document too.

Do you want a world with only humans or is there also still space left for a diverse, fascinating world? Maybe hard to think about if rural Australia is the place to start with. Just because tackling overpopulation can be unethical (such as through a one-child policy) does not mean there isn't a problem of overpopulation.

That's what's missing with conspirators. Some talk about stuff but stay on the surface. I'm still waiting for a person here who actually gets it on multiple levels, not just being a red or a blue, right or left, etc. It gets tedious on here, discussions stagnate because of it.
My depiction of what 'sustainable development' is will go beyond what most would perceive as something as comprehensionable. I try to intrigue others in finding the full-on version of the truth for themselves. I simply point to the door. However, this is not the case. Too many want answers, whether they can accept it or not. I will post another epic soon that will help people understand a little better. Bear in mind this won't be easy to digest. As quoted in the movie 'A Few Good Men', "You want answers?! I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!".


Question is, are you ready?
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Old 18-11-2020, 01:21 AM
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Why those disagreeing with your opinion are conspiracy crazes, and not those whom you agree with? Actually the noise is made by the gullibles.




I run a science based practice, so within my particular industry, I know who's providing knowledge and who is making things up. The people who follow shills disagree with me because they have scientific evidence (but take it out of context). Science based practitioners don't disagree because they are widely abreast of the knowledge in the field. We could differ on nuances, and practice according to different implications, and I might point out the strengths and weaknesses in my own methods as I explain my rationale. We also understand the gaps in research... hence when someone on the internet thread says c19 is some sort of domination ruse, I'm like, show me the money!

Then I come forward with measured comments such we don't really know a lot about it, so it's not possible to say for sure... but we can be sure there actually a virus for a start... If you believe it's all a scam, that means you believe 100000 scientists all over the world coordinated a lie, which is ludicrous. We can be sure it affects the respiratory system and is fatal in a small percentage of cases, that certain demographics are at higher risk and that health services become overwhelmed when outbreaks are uncontained. There are things like that we can be reasonably certain of.


To say it was planned under some sort of nefarious scheme could be possible, but the evidence is like the people who are sure insulin is the primary determinant of fat gain. There is evidence that insulin plays a major role in fat storage... but it's still not true that eating carbs is what makes you fat. Evidence out of its context is very misleading because it is very convincing.


This is the internet so we think it's all opinions, and even if I say something which is true, that's just my opinion, but it isn't. Anyone can have a hypothesis no matter how unlikely... and frankly, conspiracy theories can usually be debunked easily - and the evidence for them is pretty thin.
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