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09-09-2020, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Altair
You have a large population and you also test far more than other countries. Back in spring, Dr. Birx said: ''We have ‘very liberal’ recording of covid deaths; If they test positive, we are counting that''. That's the attitude, I doubt things have changed much since then, at least definitely not in your MSM ((and it's clear as to why
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. That may be true to bad all the information seems very inconsistent even within our own country. Hard to believe what's true or not. In the U.S. it's the perfect storm of confusion. It's election year here too witch adds to everything. Our 2 political parties are very divided with everything. There working against each other blaming each other for the pandemic. If the two parties put there differences aside worked on what's best for the country we would see a lot more progress. Even before the pandemic politics were very divided in turn it makes the general public divided as well. When people get scared and confused people react in unpredictable ways. There is no solid leadership here through this mess. There's other issues besides the virus that our law makers are not doing anything about. They cant or won't find a common ground. Only for the sake for not giving in to the other. It's really like 2 parents going through a ugly divorce!
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09-09-2020, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hallow
. That may be true to bad all the information seems very inconsistent even within our own country. Hard to believe what's true or not. In the U.S. it's the perfect storm of confusion. It's election year here too witch adds to everything. Our 2 political parties are very divided with everything. There working against each other blaming each other for the pandemic. If the two parties put there differences aside worked on what's best for the country we would see a lot more progress. Even before the pandemic politics were very divided in turn it makes the general public divided as well. When people get scared and confused people react in unpredictable ways. There is no solid leadership here through this mess. There's other issues besides the virus that our law makers are not doing anything about. They cant or won't find a common ground. Only for the sake for not giving in to the other. It's really like 2 parents going through a ugly divorce!
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The State in the USA where I live, a person is listed as dying from COVID-19 if it is the third and possibly fourth cause of death.
For example, if a person plows into the back of a tractor trailer and dies, the cause of death will be used for Covid-19 calculations if he has the virus in his system. Figure it out, I can't!
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09-09-2020, 04:26 AM
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The State in the USA where I live, a person is listed as dying from COVID-19 if it is the third and possibly fourth cause of death.
For example, if a person plows into the back of a tractor trailer and dies, the cause of death will be used for Covid-19 calculations if he has the virus in his system. Figure it out, I can't!
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Scaremongering?
They say: Follow the money!
The French say: Cherchez la femme!
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09-09-2020, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by inavalan
Scaremongering?
They say: Follow the money!
The French say: Cherchez la femme!
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Was she wearing a red dress?
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Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
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09-09-2020, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
For example, if a person plows into the back of a tractor trailer and dies, the cause of death will be used for Covid-19 calculations if he has the virus in his system. Figure it out, I can't!
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That's pretty much how they fudge the numbers.
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Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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09-09-2020, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Heightend-Awareness
That's pretty much how they fudge the numbers.
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and if a person goes in 10 times to be tested, instead of reporting it as 1 person being tested, I suspect the person gets counted as 10 'different' people.
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09-09-2020, 05:10 AM
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and if a person goes in 10 times to be tested, instead of reporting it as 1 person being tested, I suspect the person gets counted as 10 'different' people.
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Taps side of nose with index finger, your getting very very warm. So warm, by gingo , I think he's got it.
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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09-09-2020, 05:15 AM
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And if the number of deaths aren't scary enough, go count the ones in the morgue from yesterday to add to today's tally.
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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09-09-2020, 05:37 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Originally Posted by Altair
My worry is that some events are used as excuses for more surveillance and control, at the cost of liberties and privacy. It may ''make sense'' to people in times of crisis but then such things become the new norm and we could be pushed towards more of that. That is my worry with modern tech and authorities' behaviour (behaving like they are our parents). In times of crisis they say they can just push crisis laws through in the name of your safety. There are constitutional rights that should not be bargained with, IMO.
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yeah if you look at the history of things, whatever gets pushed through by one guy rarely gets recinded by another... they just keep building on whatever they can get. So this would be a concern for me too, if I didn't see that an even greater power was pushing THEM around the same way they push US around...
in my estimation said greater power has our best interests at heart so I'm ok with all this...
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09-09-2020, 06:07 AM
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This is google's data (as much as it can be trusted): https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...czUBPIQ4dUDCA0
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