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29-04-2022, 11:42 AM
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Knower
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Different Castes as like going from 1st floor to 4th floor, instead of superiority
In Hinduism, there is a talk about how men must perform the duties of men, and women must perform the duties of womanhood, with a mention of how there are different duties:
Workmen and Craftsmen
Merchants and Traders
Warriors and Policeman
Teachers and Counselors
However, it's wrong to see these in terms of superiority, because without the workmen, there can be no traders, and without traders, there wouldn't be warriors, and without warriors, there wouldn't be teachers. Each is dependent upon the other for their success. It's like without the first floor, there cannot be a second floor, and without the second floor, there cannot be a third floor, etc.
Thank you for reading, and please share your thoughts and opinions.
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30-04-2022, 07:51 PM
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Master
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Location: Golden Bay, New Zealand
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My understanding is that the caste system was originally intended to create a harmonious ordered society where everyone knew their place and worked together for the benefit of the whole.
Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, this ideal degenerated to a system where some were privileged and others were disadvantaged.
Which is strange in a society which teaches the doctrines of reincarnation and karma. I sometimes wonder how many of today's Dalits (untouchables) were smug Brahmins in a previous life. And how many of today's Brahmins will be reborn as the lowest of the low. Ultimately everything balances out.
Peace
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02-05-2022, 01:47 AM
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Knower
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamthat
My understanding is that the caste system was originally intended to create a harmonious ordered society where everyone knew their place and worked together for the benefit of the whole.
Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, this ideal degenerated to a system where some were privileged and others were disadvantaged.
Which is strange in a society which teaches the doctrines of reincarnation and karma. I sometimes wonder how many of today's Dalits (untouchables) were smug Brahmins in a previous life. And how many of today's Brahmins will be reborn as the lowest of the low. Ultimately everything balances out.
Peace
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Emotional Repression Release can carry over into the next life in a reincarnating species, and while it's possible that a previously rich man is born into a poorer family in the next life, there are also certain characteristics for the rebirth, such as having parents who have the desire to improve society, or having parents with the drive to become financially independent, etc.
In the Bhagavad Gita, there is a strong emphasis on duty, which can be interpreted as duty of men and women. There is also mention about division of labor, though looking at it from the point-of-view of Unity, it's about how all are dependent upon one another (or one cannot exist without that which came before), not which is superior to whom.
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03-05-2022, 04:41 AM
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Knower
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Duties of men entails being a responsible father and husband, using love as a guide, and viewing child-rearing as a job.
Duties of women entails being a responsible mother, using love as a guide, and also viewing child-rearing as a job.
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03-05-2022, 10:15 AM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2019
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caste system in hinduism
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Originally Posted by MidasCloud
In Hinduism, there is a talk about how men must perform the duties of men, and women must perform the duties of womanhood, with a mention of how there are different duties:
Workmen and Craftsmen
Merchants and Traders
Warriors and Policeman
Teachers and Counselors
Thank you for reading, and please share your thoughts and opinions.
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Caste system of inequality , inferiority / superiority , social strictures is not the one originally mandated and practiced in India . With political decimation in last millenium combined with lack of proper understanding of sciences, the social malaise of inequality decayed Indian social fabric.
Keeping that aside original castes system mandataed by Hinduism is one of specialization recognizing following core facts .
1. Specialization leads to excellence .
2. Proximity of similarly skilled people leads to excellence in one's duties. (rules relating to birth /marriage in castes stems from recognition of this fact)
3. Society benefits extremely from the such excellence which can lead to innovation /inventions.
4. People derive tremendous satisfaction and fun from the work itself besides economic benefits. That is very good for work life balance and overall well being of person/familiy/community and society at large.
5. Specialization was service oriented meaning no other specialization group to be allowed to exploit the other group and at the same time no member of one' own group be allowed to cheat other specialization group.
6. Overall co-operation among the castes is key .
7. Situational/contextual leadership of each caste was recognized and respected .
Same principles underlie the division of labour between male /female . But its not extremely rigid to take the fun out of life . It's flexible enough to enrich the flow and experience of life.
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03-05-2022, 09:26 PM
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Knower
Join Date: Jun 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
Caste system of inequality , inferiority / superiority , social strictures is not the one originally mandated and practiced in India . With political decimation in last millenium combined with lack of proper understanding of sciences, the social malaise of inequality decayed Indian social fabric.
Keeping that aside original castes system mandataed by Hinduism is one of specialization recognizing following core facts .
1. Specialization leads to excellence .
2. Proximity of similarly skilled people leads to excellence in one's duties. (rules relating to birth /marriage in castes stems from recognition of this fact)
3. Society benefits extremely from the such excellence which can lead to innovation /inventions.
4. People derive tremendous satisfaction and fun from the work itself besides economic benefits. That is very good for work life balance and overall well being of person/familiy/community and society at large.
5. Specialization was service oriented meaning no other specialization group to be allowed to exploit the other group and at the same time no member of one' own group be allowed to cheat other specialization group.
6. Overall co-operation among the castes is key .
7. Situational/contextual leadership of each caste was recognized and respected .
Same principles underlie the division of labour between male /female . But its not extremely rigid to take the fun out of life . It's flexible enough to enrich the flow and experience of life.
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People do need to "wish others to find the love of their life" more.
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