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Old 03-01-2025, 08:42 AM
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Isn't it that we are aware of said experiences? That being the case and in the context of nonduality I'm inclined to investigate awareness and not its objects, the one and not the many aspects of experience.
What happened to the non-doer and choiceless awareness that you have tallked about?

Once you understand that all things are the whole, including physical objects, mind, ego and body, you do not need to investigate anything oher than how your own mind and ego works and how your mind and ego effects/projects onto your body and your sense/perception of reality.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:47 AM
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'the truth (tm)' as it was presented to me is I won't be able to find 'the truth (tm)'
The reason we can't find Truth is because it's already right here. It's like an empty page that goes unnoticed. Then someone writes words on it to describe the empty page, like spacious, empty, peaceful, complete. In a way the words can seem to hide what is right here. But they point out the simple Truth that can't be seen.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:52 AM
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Once you understand that all things are the whole, including physical objects, mind, ego and body, you do not need to investigate anything oher than how your own mind and ego works and how your mind and ego effects/projects onto your body and your sense/perception of reality.
What JASG said seems quite right. Once the mind knows intellectually that there is only Awareness, the next step is for the mind to investigate its source and nature, i.e. Awareness.
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Old 03-01-2025, 09:07 AM
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If there are no misconceptions and no belief in any concepts (as all concepts are flawed) then that is the Pure Clarity I've spoken about. It is the clear knowing of Pure Consciousness. No sight, senses, ego, mind. Just what is.
If you live your day to day life seeing, sensing and you use your mind and ego, then sight, senses, ego, mind are all the just what is. Otherwise, there being no sight, senses, ego, mind, etc is just a conceptualization of reality, unless of course you live your day to day life without you seeing, using your senses, mind, ego, body etc.

The just what is, is reality. A reality that mind and ego conceptualizes, is mind and ego based, and isn't much of a reality, and mind and ego will not learn much from a mind/ego conceptualized reality/The just what is!
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Old 03-01-2025, 09:36 AM
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What JASG said seems quite right. Once the mind knows intellectually that there is only Awareness, the next step is for the mind to investigate its source and nature, i.e. Awareness.
Seems like JASG and you want to mimic and walk in the same shoes as gurus, teachers, sages etc whom were born close to enlightenment or however you want to describe it, instead of being yourselves.
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:14 AM
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What happened to the non-doer and choiceless awareness that you have tallked about?
It's a work in progress via various practices meant to transform the conceptual into the experiential. Speaking from my own experience the conceptual can't even begin to hold a cnadle to the experiential, and that includes the concepts I present.

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Once you understand that all things are the whole, including physical objects, mind, ego and body, you do not need to investigate anything oher than how your own mind and ego works and how your mind and ego effects/projects onto your body and your sense/perception of reality.
Understanding is conceptual, not experiential. https://youtu.be/Ku8cCrdh4Ic
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:15 AM
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Seems like JASG and you want to mimic and walk in the same footsteps as gurus, teachers, sages etc whom were born close to enlightenment or however you want to describe it, instead of being yourselves.
And Catholics attempt to mimic and walk in the footsteps of Jesus, Buddhists in the footsteps of the Buddha, etc... If they were in fact born close to enlightenment then I'd think their teachings might be worth paying attention to. Kick the tires. Take a test drive.
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And Catholics attempt to mimic and walk
Kick the tires. Take a test drive.

That’s funny..🤣

I hope your not a tyre kicker ..;)
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:45 AM
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I hope your not a tyre kicker ..;)
Like sneaking past the Swiss Guard to examine all the hidden knowledge in the Vatican? Lol!
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Old 03-01-2025, 12:21 PM
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If you live your day to day life seeing, sensing and you use your mind and ego, then sight, senses, ego, mind are all the just what is. Otherwise, there being no sight, senses, ego, mind, etc is just a conceptualization of reality, unless of course you live your day to day life without you seeing, using your senses, mind, ego, body etc.
Best to drop all the concepts. So let go of the concepts of 'me living day to day', 'me seeing', 'me thinking', 'using mind and ego' etc. Drop all concepts and just be. It's a good practice, although you need to drop the concept of it being a good practice or that it's something you are doing. Just being isn't something that can be done. It just is. So drop the concept of just being.

What's here is what is. Drop that concept too. No troubles, drop them. No thoughts about a past or future, drop them. No sense of where I begin or end. Drop that. Just being, and drop that.

It's a kind of not-meditating meditation. Just try it for a little while and realise that this 'what is' is always right here. Like the 'empty page' analogy in the post above (#382).
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