
Home
 Donate!
 Articles
 CHAT!

Shop
|
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.
We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.
|

02-01-2025, 11:06 PM
|
Suspended
Master
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 2,603
|
|
|
 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_A_S_G
What I'm saying is ...
... It knows the warmth has a non-local source.
|
So you mean that consciousness is nonsentient, like an Artificial Intelligence or Algorythm?
|

02-01-2025, 11:10 PM
|
Suspended
Master
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 2,603
|
|
|
 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maisy
Seems to me words and sentences ....
.... living with different circumstances.
|
@Maisy
Post #363
Thanks for explaining that. That makes allot of sense to me. But I'm not sure that JASG means "same kind" of consciousness. It would make allot of sense if that is the case tho. I'm not sure.
|

02-01-2025, 11:13 PM
|
Ascender
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 851
|
|
|
 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewwerrin
Everything is limitless, except you?  Why not include yourself in the limitlessness?
|
There's nothing other than the Limitless.
__________________
It is what it is.
|

02-01-2025, 11:38 PM
|
Suspended
Master
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 2,603
|
|
|
 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_A_S_G
It's the Infinite Impersonal, however we label It, and it's right in the midst of our experience.
|
Are you sure you are not just afraid of the personal? And sorry if I am spilling the beans here if you are roleplaying. Because if you realise that your true nondual nature is unconditional bliss and freedom, there exists no need for any fear, ever. Every fear can instantly be realised to be your eternally and infinitely evermore invulnerable, indestructable core and free and capable self. Your consciousness is not like a drone that you have to surrender to it and hope for the best.
Your soul is literally made out of the energy which creates WORLDS! That is your life force right now! That is the very breath you are breathing right now.
But if you are just roleplaying with limitting ideas, for the fun of "forgetting who you are" and then "remembering who you are again." That is also good. In which case dont mind me, lol. You're doing a good job in that case. It is very cinematic as you describe it, or roleplay this scenario.
If comedy is allowed in this thriller or drama, with great suspense. I can only say, prrrt! "Do you think that is air you're breathing now?"
I just had to say it, just in case.
But if you're just roleplaying, then I will have to make my awkward exit here. Consider me an annoying commercial break in that case. 
|

02-01-2025, 11:39 PM
|
Suspended
Master
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 2,603
|
|
|
 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldcup7
There's nothing other than the Limitless.
|
Yeah, I can't argue with that. 
|

03-01-2025, 02:17 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 7,666
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldcup7
The Truth from the Non-duality understanding is that identity with limited form is a mistake, and the True nature is Infinite, unlimited.
|
'the truth (tm)' as it was presented to me is I won't be able to find 'the truth (tm)'
which really is a blessing to me because then I don't have to take life seriously 
|

03-01-2025, 07:13 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 2,399
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_A_S_G
The same 'you' that's already transcendent.
|
That's an interesting idea to me. I wonder if it's like sitting in a movie theater and watching a movie and stating, "You know the screen is already blank." And that's true I think. The actual movie screen is always blank. Projecting light on it does not change the fact the screen itself has no images on it. That is added to it by the movie projector.
In the same way, awareness is what it is even if all this "conditioning and thought" is "projected" on it like the light on the blank screen. I think we need to add some more stuff to the metaphor though. If I am sitting in the audience and looking at the movie up on the screen, that is my experience. I am not experiencing a blank screen. The images and light being projected onto the screen is obscuring the screens blank true nature. I am not perceiving it and can't perceive it as long as the light is covering it.
In the same way, if my current experience is being "covered" by thoughts and ego's conditioning, there is no way for me to be aware of my true nature. It's being obscured just as the blank screen is. To see the blank screen is pretty easy. We just turn off the projector. Turning off thought cannot be done as the brain does it, not us. But unlike the movie projector, we do have the potential to take our attention off of the unconsciously produced habitual thought stream and end the obscuring of our true nature and the true nature of the now experience.
Even if the movie screen is actually blank and our true self is already enlightened and reflects perfectly the nature of the source, already transcendent in other words, that's not the issue for us I think. The issue is what are we experiencing? Because we project experience or subjective reality outward into the world. For example if we are very angry at someone, they may very well suffer from our anger. We suffer as well from anger. An experience of anger can be an overlay to the transcend perfect self.
Are we experiencing anger or peace and love? Are we experiencing the movie on the screen or the blank screen? Our we "being" our true nature and therefore projecting peace and love into the world or are we being all tangled up in our human traits and natures? What I am is an experience. A perceiver has a perception. An awareness is aware of something. Being aware of nothing is being aware of something. Nothing is a something. So now is an experience and we project outward the nature of that experience and experiencer. Anger or love and so on.
It's kind of a matter of where we are placing our attention I think. Or stopping to have it in the thought stream. It's like turning off the movie projector. Then our true nature is seen and experienced and projected outward. Instead of being and experiencing and projecting our thoughts and conditioning and body drives.
|

03-01-2025, 07:31 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 2,399
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_A_S_G
The same consciousness that is conscious of the past Now is the same consciousness that is conscious of the current Now is the same consciousness that is conscious of the future Now...It's the Infinite Impersonal, however we label It, and it's right in the midst of our experience.
|
It's a potential right, an option, a choice (if we are aware we have this choice.) I can be walking around the block and getting all worked up and mad thinking about something in the past someone said to me. That is a consciousness focusing on the past (memory and thoughts) and specifically focusing on something in the past that made them mad then and is making them mad again in the now or present. I can conjure up an experience of anger all day long just by remembering things in the past that made me angry.
Most of the time this is not being conjured up willfully. It just happens due to habits in our minds. No one really says, I will think of hating my job today to ruin my day. It just happens from the subconscious up to the consciousness. The only way "out" I think is to be more aware of where we have our attention and also to have the knowledge we don't have to have it there. I'm not sure what to call the other place we can have our attention. It's on the now as it is before we color it as others have posted. Some call it emptiness but it's not really that either. It's the now without our internal thought based commentary. The real and actual now. Like say I was thinking about what someone said to me yesterday that made me mad then and made me mad again. They are not here! No one is saying anything to me now. That experience no longer exists anywhere but in my memory and a memory is not the actual now reality. It is not reality at all. It's thought and memory based reality or conceptual reality.
I am experiencing the now with an added filter of the past so not actually experiencing the now as it really is.
|

03-01-2025, 07:56 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 1,267
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maisy
The issue is what are we experiencing?
|
We are experiencing ourself. Does this passage from Luke sound familiar?
“The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, ‘Lo, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”
Kind of like what I said below?
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_A_S_G
It's the Infinite Impersonal, however we label It, and it's right in the midst of our experience.
|
It's a matter of looking inward instead of outward.
__________________
JASG AKA JustASimpleGuy
|

03-01-2025, 08:07 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 1,267
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewwerrin
And sorry if I am spilling the beans here if you are roleplaying.
|
Sure, I'm roleplaying and so are you and I recognize that, just not as strongly now as I did in the Fall of 2019. God pretending to be not-God would be one way of phrasing it.
Another way to say it is "Everything is not. God alone Is" ~ Swami Vivekananda.
__________________
JASG AKA JustASimpleGuy
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 12:49 AM.
|