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Old 19-12-2024, 04:14 PM
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In your opinion only, to which you are entitled....

it's not opinion, it's the word of God. from which you constantly, speak or quote from.
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Old 19-12-2024, 04:19 PM
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As do I understand....

Jehovah God gives us true understanding, when we're humble enough to accept ALL of it. so, then you believe all of God's words, right? since Peter said their words are by means of his Holy Spirit. which makes everything in the bible true.
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Old 19-12-2024, 04:33 PM
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As soon as people find 'peace within' .

you really believe that soon, all humans will bring peace. because they would have found it within? I and many have inner peace. yet this world is still in great turmoil. imperfect man could never bring peace to the world. even if many on earth had tried. sadly, man wants to believe that they have total control. yet they can't seem to even direct their own steps. to do what you believe, would take a miracle. Jehovah God's words shows that there will soon be world peace. but that will come by through Jesus.
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Old 19-12-2024, 05:02 PM
Redchic12 Redchic12 is offline
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JOJO…….”Jehovah God's words shows that there will soon be world peace. but that will come by through Jesus.


So are you saying that the Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, who don’t believe in Jesus won’t find peace?
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Old 19-12-2024, 05:02 PM
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Yes it's a 'symbolic' date when the Birth Of Jesus is celebrated.... not 'claimed'. Didn't your Organisation celebrate Christmas and the Birthday of Jesus ? I think it was banneed around 1927...

Sky, every human on earth once did or believed something. until they had reasons which caused them to stop, like with any other religious organization.
also, we/ they came "out of the world", that was all they knew, until the truth came out. once research was done on its origins. the organization had to do away with the celebration. if we as an organization were to "be NO part of this world" as Jesus said his followers wouldn't be. Jehovah's word shows that his servants and followers of Jesus should NOT follow the traditions of man. so, as a whole, we try not to. there may be a few who secretly does follow the ways of satan's wicked world. the organization can't make any individual follow God's law though. each one is responsible for their own salvation.
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Old 19-12-2024, 05:45 PM
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In the first century, some followers of Jesus were told to 'go, and sin no more'. From my perspective, once a Christian becomes aware of what they are doing is not 'right', then they are obligated to make the change. If they don't, what I perceive as the greatest blessing to them, will be withdrawn. I look at Jesus and the Apostle Paul as two people in the first century who were constantly bringing to the attention of the people of 'things' they had to change so as to continue in the 'fold'.

Jesus's brother said this, (James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves). MANY hear or has read God's word, (referring to "Christian"). yet they follow the ways of this world, living as they please. God's words were to guide us.

(James 4:4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God?). PAUL... shows that we can't eat from both the table of the Lord, and of satan. we can claim to be "Christians" yet follow the world.

1John 2:15-17 tells us "Do not love this world nor the things it offers you." because it offers "physical pleasure." saying that everything as we see it, "will soon be gone. but anyone who does what pleases God will live forever."

Jesus said this (John 17:14,15 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world).

we who think! that we "got this!", will soon see that we don't! I'm not perfect, for now. but I want to see this new world in which Jehovah promised us. so, if it means me fighting to, as Jesus said, "obey the WILL of my father", I will do my best. I refuse to be destroyed along with something that's just temporary.  
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Old 19-12-2024, 06:16 PM
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What? Sorry, maybe satan touches you any way he choses...and it would be you, again, that would allow it.
As I see it and read it in the Bible...and experience it.
My gosh, 1 Peter 5: 8-10 Be self-controlled and alert. ..Resist him...he will flee from you...( Be sober, be vigilant).
Christ gives you strength...and so on.
satan is just looking for someone to devour....put on your armor! Renew your mind...
That's what I see in the Bible. Give 'him' power and he will take it!
As I see it and agree with Sky.

to resist satan, means to do as Jesus said, "be NO part of satan's world. be-it words, thoughts or actions. I know those verses very well, and yes, at times I do, when my guard is down. unintentionally allow satan to control me. it seems to happen when someone gets me fired up, which I try not to let happen. I'm imperfect as all here are. but humble enough to admit that satan can get me.

you showed me verses, in which I agree. now here's a few for you. (2Cor. 4:4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them). if satan has blinded someone from the truth. does that NOT mean that he has taken control over their thinking?

here. (1𝓙𝓸𝓱𝓷 5:19 𝓦𝓮 𝓴𝓷𝓸𝔀 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝔀𝓮 𝓪𝓻𝓮 𝓯𝓻𝓸𝓶 𝓖𝓸𝓭, 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝔀𝓱𝓸𝓵𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓻𝓵𝓭 𝓵𝓲𝓮𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓹𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻 𝓸𝓯 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓵 𝓸𝓷𝓮). Jehovah God allowed satan to "touch" faithful Job. surely since you showed me verses, you came across that story... right? just because one is faithful, doesn't mean Jehovah God and Jesus will always protect them from satan.

question...so, you have NEVER gotten mad, or had ill feeling towards someone? never in your adult life did you say, I hate that person? never in your adult life, you cursed, or had negative thoughts? have you ever always told the truth? if you're humble enough to say in your mind. I am guilty of one of these acts or emotions. then that means you too my friend had allowed satan to "touch you."
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Old 19-12-2024, 06:33 PM
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Is the struggle for World Peace (to stay on topic) here on earth real? Or ..a holographic Cosmic Play of God's, Who is within us and everything? I stepped my foot in it that one!

remember, you showed me verses, concerning the lack of control from satan? well, here's what Jehovah God and Jesus word says. (Matt. 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth).

Psa. 37:9-11 For evildoers shall be cut off...But the meek shall inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Isaiah 65:17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.

Rev.21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. would you like to see this happen?
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Old 19-12-2024, 09:19 PM
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it's not opinion, it's the word of God. from which you constantly, speak or quote from.

Yes 'some' of the opinions/words of the Scribes are very wise and worth quoting imo....
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Old 19-12-2024, 09:26 PM
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you really believe that soon, all humans will bring peace. because they would have found it within?

Leave out 'soon' and yes I do believe peace 'is' possible.....
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