Mathew 22:37 Love God with your whole heart, your whole mind, and your whole soul

Originally Posted by Shabby

Well, it could not be "Jesus" the man/the person, that we are to share if it is as Rabbi said also in the O.T. Besides...Jesus himself said: you call me good... there is but one good and that is God. Jesus always pointed away from himself to the father in heaven.

Goodness flows not from a man’s deeds, but rather from God Himself. The soul is tainted with Sin, and no soul in a fallen state can truly know God without a Redeemer.

Originally Posted by TeeHee

Goodness flows not from a man’s deeds, but rather from God Himself. The soul is tainted with Sin, and no soul in a fallen state can truly know God without a Redeemer.

If Jesus was born into the flesh then his soul was also tainted with sin. Who was Jesus's redeemer?

[Uma]

Mary Baker,

What you have said sounds like a nice, simple, practical approach to living. I like how you added Jesus' expansion to it "love our enemies, pray for them and do good to them such as feeding them and giving to drink". If we all did that maybe there would be no more wars.

If you have experienced a saturation of God's unconditional love it's in your memory somewhere, in your nervous system, and you can experience it again if you want to.

TeeHee,

I'm not familiar with your understanding of "soul" as "nephesh" but agree with the parts about knowing God should be the first priority, and being consumed day and night with some kind of spiritual discipline.

Can we share Jesus with others by the way we act not necessarily by preaching to them? What do you think?

And thanks BTW for sharing the citation from the OT.

Originally Posted by Shabby

If Jesus was born into the flesh then his soul was also tainted with sin. Who was Jesus's redeemer?

This would be a different and lengthy subject altogether. Jesus, in the scripture quoted was not denying his deity. Instead was getting the rich young ruler to think about the implications of his words. And Jesus was not born into the "flesh" but conceived by the Holy Spirit. These things are either believed or not and make one a Christian or not, either way, there's plenty of threads here in this forum denying Jesus' as the Son, or One of the Trinity.

Originally Posted by Uma

Mary Baker,

What you have said sounds like a nice, simple, practical approach to living. I like how you added Jesus' expansion to it "love our enemies, pray for them and do good to them such as feeding them and giving to drink". If we all did that maybe there would be no more wars.

If you have experienced a saturation of God's unconditional love it's in your memory somewhere, in your nervous system, and you can experience it again if you want to.

TeeHee,

I'm not familiar with your understanding of "soul" as "nephesh" but agree with the parts about knowing God should be the first priority, and being consumed day and night with some kind of spiritual discipline.

Can we share Jesus with others by the way we act not necessarily by preaching to them? What do you think?

And thanks BTW for sharing the citation from the OT.

You can't take the king out of the Kingdom.

Originally Posted by TeeHee

This would be a different and lengthy subject altogether. Jesus, in the scripture quoted was not denying his deity. Instead was getting the rich young ruler to think about the implications of his words. And Jesus was not born into the "flesh" but conceived by the Holy Spirit. These things are either believed or not and make one a Christian or not, either way, there's plenty of threads here in this forum denying Jesus' as the Son, or One of the Trinity.

Oh I don't deny Jesus as one son of God nor that he became Christ.

[psychoslice]

In others words, become that who you are, God.

[theophilus]

Originally Posted by Shabby

Well, it could not be "Jesus" the man/the person, that we are to share if it is as Rabbi said also in the O.T. Besides...Jesus himself said: you call me good... there is but one good and that is God. Jesus always pointed away from himself to the father in heaven.

We are separated from God because of our sins and the only way we can approach him is through Jesus.

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.
(1 Timothy 2:5-6 ESV)

Jesus pointed to God but he also said that he himself was the way to God.

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
(John 14:6 ESV)

If Jesus was born into the flesh then his soul was also tainted with sin. Who was Jesus's redeemer?

Jesus was born of a woman but he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and didn't have a human father. In this was he could share in human nature without being tainted by human sin. He is the only person who ever lived who didn't need a redeemer and this fact qualifies him to be our redeemer.

[Uma]

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
(John 14:6 ESV)

"me" = Christ Consciousness

Do you think that Jesus considered himself as being merely a body - the bones and the flesh - and not the "I am" consciousness of Christ?

Originally Posted by theophilus

We are separated from God because of our sins and the only way we can approach him is through Jesus.

Jesus pointed to God but he also said that he himself was the way to God.

Jesus was born of a woman but he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and didn't have a human father. In this was he could share in human nature without being tainted by human sin. He is the only person who ever lived who didn't need a redeemer and this fact qualifies him to be our redeemer.

Hey Theophilus, If one truly loved God then one would Glorify God and God alone....and not a person. Since no child can be born of one parent I doubt that "being conceived by the Holy Spirit" means that a child was born without the sperm of a father. If God wanted a person to come into this world to teach us the way out, do you really think he needed a woman to give birth to it? Do you really think it had to be born into this world? How do you know so much about Jesus' life where only a few years are noted in the bible. You don't know if Jesus had a girl friend or maybe even a few, if he ever got drunk or if he was completely without sin up to the point of him realizing his oneness with the Father in heaven.