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Old 24-01-2023, 12:02 PM
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I felt I needed to speak up in response to the post about depression as well.


In many cases, the soul requires specific experiences for growth, in my case I can speak to that but I won't make any statements for others.


I was severely neglected as a child and raised in an abusive cult which resulted in further traumas later on due to my experiences and my core wounding of unlovibility, isolation, neglect has a very specific effect where it creates a "non" person, a person with no identity and a very difficult and long commitment to not only being OK and feeling safe to have an identical but then a very long and painful journey to come home and be with that sense of self, identity and home with self and eventually other people as well.


I can speak for myself and say that my soul desire in this life is to know and understand unconditional love. Life and growth work in polarity - there is no growth on this planet without polarity.

Depression has been serving me, a mechanism to tell me what I needed and what to move towards for growth and healing from trauma.


I have spent the past 20 years taking this journey- I am the bravest and strongest person I know. It has taken guts, courage and stamina for me to get where I am so that my soul can accomplish its task here on earth.


In fact, my experiences and journey will become my greatest asset in life and I have alot to say and share to the world to make it a safer place for those who have been severely harmed by other human beings.



Home is real, it is a real and tangible thing and my belief in my feeling and knowing that there is a home for me here on earth has been the single biggest driver for me to continue taking the steps I needed to take to commit to my purpose here on this planet.


The worst thing I could have done to the neglected child within me is to tell her that all of that was an illusion.


The only illusion was the belief which I had that I was not worthy of loving and safe relationships here on earth.

The illusion was that I was so very alone when I needed community and togetherness.


The illusion is to forget our human need for community, connection and society.

Our human need for safety and connection with others, the human need to feel safe and at home on our planet and with each other.
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Old 24-01-2023, 10:04 PM
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Let's face it we are all here for 80 years average.

It's very temporal experience. (for good and for bad)

Yes, the group consciousness of this universe sucks and majority of people are selfish/fearful. (but it doesn't matter because you can manifest your own stuff anyways)


Everyday it must be your priority to practice the out of body techniques in the middle of the night

That will quit all types of depression, fears, and issues within yourself because you will realize how amazing life is - You will no longer self-identify as a human being


Then, on this human life experience (inspite all the **) you will feel empowered to do stuff you want to do, because fears will go away.

This is why I said "depressed people doesn't understand reality" - They don't know how to get out of their physical bodies into real reality.


Achiving "escape velocity" into freedom.

Do the out of body system every night after sleeping for 3 hours.

This is not a hobby this is life priority to break free forever.
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Old 25-01-2023, 02:21 AM
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Many find the Astral Travel thing hard to obtain.

This was given to me a long time ago before I knew what I did naturally was Astral Travel.

Quiet your mind. Clear your thoughts. In your mind think....

I am going to count down from 3 - 1, visualizing each number on a white ball of light suspended in the air above my head. When I reach that third and final (1) my body will be deeply relaxed. I will have no awareness of physical sensations. I will not perceive of any physical discomforts. My consciousness will be focused on my “Astral Body."

Starting with the number 3 visualize the White ball of light and start to relax the body. Do this three or four time.

Then move to the number 2 your now in an even greater state of relaxation. You’re now aware of physical sensations or vibration; you’re getting ready entering your Astral Body. Again, do this three of four times.

Then move to the number 1 your consciousness is now in your “Astral Body”. Again, do this number 1 three or four times.

This will hold you in your “Astral Body” state. There is no time frame involved the best thing do to though is to try and keep mind "chatter" down. This is idle thoughts that get in the way. The best way to handle these thought is simply to push them away as they come to you, some use a broom and sweep them.

What this exercise does is get you used to the vibrations or feeling of the “Astral body” and what it feels like. This is not yet that exit point, this is a first step to understand more of how it feels.

When your comfortable with the process then you can go to the next step which is “stepping out” but do not go too far, start slow looking down at your body and around the room your in. Like all things take your time and take it in steps before one wanders too far out. In one Workshop I was a part of this was a 6-month process to where most were at that place of comfort to freely travel.


Hope that this might help some. Too patients nothing happens overnight....



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Old 25-01-2023, 02:24 AM
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Hello

Here is another method from when I used to teach workshops on Astral Travel.


The Astral Rope

What is the ROPE; well it is an imaginary tool that is used to aid in the Astral Projection process.

This is a good projection method if one has good powers of concentration.

What you do is attach an imaginary rope to the ceiling. Make it a strong and thick climbing rope.

To start to use the rope first make sure that you are prepared by having done a mind clearing and relaxation exercise.

Once this done reach out with imaginary hands to the rope. Go hand over hand slowly up the rope. It is not uncommon that you feel dizzy or a feeling of vertigo. This is simply the body loosening form the mind’s control. This will take a few times to clear and balance out. Too one might have to deal with the fear of falling.

Keeps climbing hand over hand going upwards? As you climb you will start to have a heavy feeling to the body note this and simply keep climbing. As you go higher you will start to feel vibrations in the body and might well start to feel parlayed. Do not give into this feeling keep climbing.

Next you will feel you- self-coming free from the body and there might well be a “buzzing” around you or in your ears. Concentrate thought this seeing that the rope is there beside you. You are now FREE from the body.

The good thing with the rope method is that the ROPE is like a safety net for you to come back to and climb down.


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Old 25-01-2023, 02:29 AM
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Hello

Here is a more complex method a bit more advanced. This is one I learned some 40 years ago now.




The Monroe Method Astral Projection

I thought I would post one method I have personally tried and had success with and that many I know that I have told of this said its amazing.

The Monroe Technique

Step One:
Relax the body. While Monroe offers not method for this (the one I find works the best is simple muscle relaxation exercise put together with deep breathing. I have had ones say up to 100 times is needed for some.) Muscle exercises can be shoulder rolls, arm and leg twist, ankle and wrist rolls ect.

Step Two:

Enter the state bordering sleep. This is known as the hypnotic state of being. Once again Monroe does not offer a method for this. One way is to lay in bed holding your forearm up while keeping your upper arm on the bed. The other method (I like this better many laying in bed fall a sleep) Sit on the floor and focus on an object. When other images or lights start to enter your mind then your entering the hypnotic state. Passivly watch the images. This will also help you maintain this state of near-sleep.
(too it takes patients and practice) This is condition A

Step Three:

Deepen this state. Begin to clear you mind. Observe your field of vision through your closed eyelids at the blackness in front of you. After a while you might start to notice light patterns. When they cease, one has entered Condition B. From here you must enter an even deeper state of relaxation which is Condition C-- a state of such relaxation that you lose all awareness of the body and sensory stimulations. You are almost in a void in which your only source of stimulation will be your own thoughts.

The ideal state for leaving your body is Condition D the best time to find this stage is right when you wake in the morning or right after a nap. Its the deepest level that you go to before travel begins. Before the vibrations start.

Step Four:

Enter the state of vibration. This is the most important part of this technique, and also the most vague. Many projectors have noticed these vibrations at the onset of projection. What you feel might be a mild tingling, or an electrical current type feeling going through your body. Some say this is that Astral Body trying to leave the Physical Body.

For entering into the vibrational state Monroe offers the following directions:

1) Remove all jeweler, or other item's that might be touching your skin.

2) Darken the room so that no light can be seen though your eyelids, but do not cover your eyes with a mask.

3) Lie down with your body on a North- South axis, with your head towards magnetic North. ( again in bed many fall a sleep more likely to stay awake on the hard floor.)

4) Loosen all clothing, but keep covered so that you are slightly warmer than what would be normally comfortable ( your body temperature goes down in this vibrational state)

5) Be sure you are in a location where, there will be no noise to distract or disturb you.

6) Enter the state of relaxation.

7) Give yourself mental suggestions that you will remember all that occurs during the upcoming session. Repeat this 5 times so it sticks well.

8) As your breathe, concentrate on the void in front of you.

9) Select a point a foot away from your forehead, then change your mental reference to 6 feet .

10) Turn the point 90 degrees upward by drawing an imaginary line parellel to your body axis up above your head. Focus there and reach out for the vibrations at that point and bring them back into your body.

Even if you do not know what these vibrations are, you will know when you have achieved contact with them.

Step 5:

Learning to control the vibrational state. Practice them by controlling them by mentally pushing them into your head, down to your toes, moving them and surging them through your whole body. This is also know as the wave effect they move through the body like waves going in and out. Once you have a handle on this then your ready to leave the body and travel.

Step 6:

Begin with a partial separation. Keep your mind firmly focused on the idea of leaving your body. Do not let your thoughts wonder doing so might cause you to loose control.
Now having entered the vibrational state, begin to explore the OBE by releasing only a hand or foot of the "second" body. Do this til you come to contact a familiar object, such as a wall. Then push through that object. Then return that limb by bringing it back into the physical one. Start out slowly patients and practice.

Step 7:

Dissociate from the physical body. One method is to simple lift your body, think of it getting lighter and lighter entering the vibrational state. Think about how nice is would be to fly upward and free from the physical body.

The other method is "Rotation Method" or "Roll Out" . When you have achieved the vibrational state, try rolling over as you would do in bed. Do not attempt to roll over thymically.

This one is more complex and I find it works well for one's that have real trouble lettings go of the physical.

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Old 25-01-2023, 10:41 AM
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Red Embers what you have said is from the heart it was a Brave thing to do and goes to show how far you have come. well done.
As for astral travel for myself it is instantaneous I have never had to think about it I can do it at will.


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Old 25-01-2023, 11:28 AM
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BRAVO RedEmbers you have done amazingly well and a true inspiration for others.
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Old 25-01-2023, 11:29 AM
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Lynn thanks for that rope exercise. What a good idea. I love it!
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Old 25-01-2023, 09:20 PM
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What is the ROPE; well it is an imaginary tool that is used to aid in the Astral Projection process. ...
Thanks, Lynn. Always good to be reminded of the rope.

A couple of additional comments. The rope technique is attributed to Robert Bruce who says (in Astral Dynamics) that he had been asked to come up with a technique which blind people could use.

So the rope technique is a tactile exercise, not a visualisation exercise. Which will suit those who are more kinesthetic than visual. The important thing is to feel the rope in the hands and to keep both hands moving - as one hand pulls up on the rope the other hand is reaching upwards to grasp the next bit of rope. And so we feel ourselves moving upwards.

The sense of vertigo in the chest and stomach indicates that the technique is exerting pressure on the projectable double, which will eventually lead to the projection reflex being activated.

I must admit that I have spent hours doing the rope technique with little success, but the simplicity of it has always appealed and I like the fact that it does not require good visualisation ability.

Maybe time to revisit this.

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Old 25-01-2023, 10:10 PM
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3) Lie down with your body on a North- South axis, with your head towards magnetic North. ( again in bed many fall a sleep more likely to stay awake on the hard floor.)

9) Select a point a foot away from your forehead, then change your mental reference to 6 feet .

10) Turn the point 90 degrees upward by drawing an imaginary line parellel to your body axis up above your head. Focus there and reach out for the vibrations at that point and bring them back into your body.
I have always struggled with this explanation. If we are lying down horizontally facing upwards then the mental reference point 6 feet from the forehead is already vertically above us, between us and the ceiling. So how do we turn the point 90 degrees upward?

Is this saying that an imaginary vertical line between the forehead and the mental reference point 6 feet away becomes an imaginary horizontal line parallel to the prone physical body? Rather like a floating astral body.

Robert Monroe describes this in Journeys Out Of The Body (p212) and Robert Peterson describes his experiences using these techniques (with diagrams) in Chapter 4 of Hacking the Out Of Body Experience. But I am still a bit unsure.

Any clarifications? Thanks.

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