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Old 25-11-2021, 04:31 PM
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One of my favorites. Why?
Ha, and then you have the indignant onlookers, the other son ---Hey, why are you forgiving this guy so easily?
Shows how others have no idea how love works...or the nature of the Father's love, another way to say it. :)
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Old 25-11-2021, 04:51 PM
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Sorry Miss Hepburn is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

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Old 25-11-2021, 04:54 PM
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For those of us that acknowledge that sin is a reality does it serve a purpose ?

A means to control the masses/followers. And a means to raise revenue. For example, the Catholic Church around 1095 offered indulgences which was payment for forgiveness of sins, if I have read that correctly.
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Old 26-11-2021, 02:09 AM
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But ......... that has nothing to do with what Jesus taught.
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Old 26-11-2021, 06:19 AM
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But why place a Tree of Knowledge in a paradise in the first place?
Why not ban the so called devil/snake/ego/animal nature from your children in the first place,
thus, getting rid of the possibility of missing the mark...causing so much suffering?


Would you enjoy being a robot, or a rock or would you prefer having free will?

Of course, free will. But if a person misuses their free will.... that is another story.
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Old 26-11-2021, 01:30 PM
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But why place a Tree of Knowledge in a paradise in the first place? Why not ban the so called devil/snake/ego/animal nature from your children in the first place,

say a mother has a vanity full of expensive perfumes. her daughter asked if she can have some. the mother said sure just don't take this one. she takes all that wanted, then comes back and take the one Mom requested NOT to take. should Mom had just removed the perfume from OWN vanity. just to make sure no one was tempted?

if the daughter was old enough to recognize what those items were and what it's used for. then she was older enough to know NOT to touch what didn't belong to her. she disobeyed her mom. similarly, Jehovah God had every right to NOT removed a tree he Already had planted in the Garden before Adam was even created. as John said, they ALL were NOT created to be robots.

satan like to control in order to have his way, Jehovah God doesn't. also, he TOLD Adam what would happen if touch the tree, "you will surly die!" man blames God, when man should take the blame for his own troubles. if one's been warned, yet one refuse to listen. it's on him, he will have to suffer the consequences. peace
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Old 26-11-2021, 01:48 PM
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Lol, "Sorry Miss Hepburn is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.''
Nanananana - that's what I thought...but Lynn or Native said
that was fine, (I mean, if particular posters 'effect me adversely' to ignore them.)
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Old 26-11-2021, 01:58 PM
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say a mother has a vanity full of expensive perfumes. ..
she (the daughter)... . takes the one Mom requested NOT to take.
should Mom have just removed the perfume from her OWN vanity.
Um, yes. Esp knowing the nature of children and the temptation of an underdeveloped mind
that can't even see 10 minutes ahead!

There's a sharp knife within reach -"Don't ever touch that, Johnny....and never stick it into that outlet or else!"
As if.
We place locked gates around swimming pools? Right?


So again, why on earth would God not even 'place the perfume in a locked drawer'?
I have my ideas and am at peace with it, I have NO gripes with anything God does!
But, I think it's a good question.

(It is also in the immature, underdeveloped mind of man to blame... a crazy, ignorant aspect
present in some minds.
Every single thing that I do and that happens to me is because of me, period.)
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BigJohn: this has nada to do with being a robot or free will.
It has to do with foreknowledge, understanding the nature of the mind of the human
you created and mostly protection.
So, what could possibly have been the deeper, deliberate, long ranging purpose?
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