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Old 22-11-2021, 07:39 AM
Guillaume Guillaume is offline
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If a map had all the information of the terrain it would be the same as the terrain, and therefore superfluous. This means a model necessarily needs to be not-right to be useful.
Ah you're saying the same as me! One step further and you'll come to the conclusion that all models are wrong but some are useful :)

Btw the map is not the territory, that analogy is used in French as well.
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:12 PM
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I like to say all models' are incomplete. Mix and match them, be honest, and apply the same logic to our personal beliefs as we do others.

err ...wait a min ... maybe we shouldn't do that. Many people judge others illogically,
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Old 02-12-2021, 01:45 AM
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A map is 'not right but useful' because it represents some info about the terrain. If a map had all the information of the terrain it would be the same as the terrain, and therefore superfluous. This means a model necessarily needs to be not-right to be useful.

some maps are more useful than others though, even when the maps try to map out the same terrain. Because the tools used to make the map factor into it too... bad tools lead to a less useful map... It is really really easy to get a less useful map as far as I can tell....
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Old 02-12-2021, 02:44 AM
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In that regard, I now tend to think that "intuition" is precisely avoiding the use of our wrong model. Higher intuition I mean. It's like admitting the limited capacity of our brain and letting God / the Universe tell us the truth.

it seems almost a truism that a lot of what we see is a direct result of our previous decisions as to what we wanted to see... LOA is often lauded for the same reason this thread talks about, its usefulness, but it leads only to MAYA...

it is like a theatre, if you will but pay for the ticket you get to choose what movie to watch. Then you can make a map for the movie and have fun talking about it?
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Old 12-12-2021, 03:58 PM
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Models are like horoscopes. They show us a potential future, and it will become reality if we invest enough mental focus in it. They work by the power of suggestion.
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Old 29-12-2021, 03:42 PM
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I swear Iíve figured out the answers in form of equations
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Old 29-12-2021, 05:18 PM
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I swear Iíve figured out the answers in form of equations
Did you get 42 as the solution? ;)
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