What actually is Pride?

[Honza]

It is called the cardinal sin. But what actually is it? In my heart I feel that I am too proud, but am not sure in what way.

[sky]

Pride

A sense of one's own proper dignity or value; self-respect.
Pleasure or satisfaction taken in an achievement, possession, or association.
Arrogant or disdainful conduct or treatment; haughtiness.

Take your pick


Celebrate who you are, and acknowledging your uniqueness, and your differences as gifts and strengths.
Imo it is how you use your pride that can make it negative......

[Redchic12]

Great comments Sky.

The first two lines of your comments show that pride can be a very positive trait but of course the last line says something quite different. When arrogance and haughtiness plays a big role in your pride then obviously it will be detrimental to you. But apart from that, cant see a problem with it myself.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Redchic12

Great comments Sky.

The first two lines of your comments show that pride can be a very positive trait but of course the last line says something quite different. When arrogance and haughtiness plays a big role in your pride then obviously it will be detrimental to you. But apart from that, cant see a problem with it myself.

Equanimity.... one of my favourite words

[Miss Hepburn]

Pride. There are many ways it manifests...1 not bad at all...and the other a hindrance to ourselves and, ha, relations.

What is it when a little boy jumps off a dock and screams ..."MOM! Did you SEE that!?" That's pride -
natural in our development here.

But, what is it when pride gets us into an argument that we are right?

When you boil that down ...on the unconscious level it is always fear.
Fear?
How could it be fear?
We have fear of abandonment ...if we are not right, if we are proven wrong ...we might be
left, mocked even 'abandoned'.
Comes from our core abandonment issues as babies...we are dependent totally on another for life.

I didn't just make that up..comes from therapists.
.....
Eastern traditions (Vivekananda) says there are 2 doors into the mind, (the Mind being the source of turmoil,
separation, delusions and suffering, that is)
The back door is guilt ---the front door is pride.

First, as a warning and without apology, I am anti pride…..😊😊. Pride, for me, is a sign of ignorance. I would suggest that 99.9 % of our usage of ‘pride’ should more truthfully be replaced by ‘thankfulness’. Anyone that is accomplished or successful has a very long line of both people and circumstance to thank for their unique position…..

[inavalan]

This is about the biblical meaning of "pride", not about how the word could be used today. It is about the meaning of "the admonition behind the phrase", not even about the word that was used.

From this perspective, I believe that the admonition against "pride" means: know that you don't know, in all situations!

You see / hear everywhere people sententiously dispensing opinions, many of them honestly having no idea they are mistaken. That is "pride" as a sin, and it is detrimental to them, to their growth.

I don't think that this is about how one sees himself relatively to others, but about how one sees himself.

Originally Posted by inavalan

not even about the word that was used.
From this perspective, I believe that the admonition against "pride" means: know that you don't know, in all situations!
You see / hear everywhere people dispensing opinions, many of them honestly having no idea they are mistaken. That is "pride" as a sin, and it is detrimental to them, to their growth.

inavalan,

This, of course, is a definition of ignorance. “Forgive them for they know not what they do”…..ignorance…..and can be understood as ‘ignoring’ God….if it was not a sin forgiveness would have no application…..

[sky]

"This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased” Matt. 3:17.2.

"Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my boasting on your behalf. I am filled with comfort. I am exceedingly joyful in all our tribulation." Cor. 7:4.

Pride can be positive or negative, healthy or unhealthy, but I personally do not see it as a 'sin'..... Used in the correct way it can be beneficial to oneself and others.
Imo.....

[FallingLeaves]

when you have pride ( in the biblical sense) you are in some ways attempting to lift yourself up. And this comes at the expense of feeling like you are 'better' than others. Which is anti-love.