Help me learn to trust?

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Madhuri

Short version - I recently learned that someone I love very much is being abused in ways I didn’t know could be possible. I’ve seen a side of human cruelty that I couldn’t have imagined existed, my efforts to help seem to make things worse, and certain details about this situation mean there doesn’t seem to be anywhere to turn for help. I wanted to explain that much, because sometimes this New Though stuff can sound a lot like being in denial.

Ah, this gives a different slant on things. You are suffering not because of your own situation but because of another person's situation.

You say there is nowhere to turn to for help. Presumably this other person is an adult. You do not give your location, but if it were a child then in many countries you could involve social services or the police.

If this other person is an adult in an abusive situation then they may be undergoing their own learning experience. When and how will they find the courage to end the abuse? But I realise that there are often complications which make it difficult for someone to leave an abusive situation.

And if you believe in pre-birth Soul contracts then this person might have agreed to be in this situation with his or her abuser to learn from the experience. But that does not mean that the experience cannot be ended.

New Thought affirmations can sound like denial, as you say. Declaring that life is wonderful when life is actually rather terrible is unlikely to succeed because the affirmer will probably mentally contradict any such affirmations.

You could use the power of visualisation, intention and gratitude to see a speedy and happy resolution to this situation. But it is complicated by the fact that this is actually someone else's situation and their learning process.

Another approach is using ho'oponopono, which can be very successful. Plenty of information online - look for Dr Hew Len. A very interesting story of how he cured everyone in a ward for the criminally insane in a Hawaiian State hospital without seeing any of these patients.

The basic principle of ho'oponopono is that we are responsible for every stressful situation which we have attracted into our lives. So you have attracted this situation which is causing you stress, even though the situation involves other people. Therefore you need to seek forgiveness for whatever you might have done which has brought this situation into your life. It all comes down to the power of forgiveness. Then the situation naturally resolves itself.

Which may sound quite far out, but if nothing else you have tried is working then it may be worth finding out more about ho'oponopono.

Peace

[Miss Hepburn]

I agree with iamthat...yet again! :)

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I agree with iamthat...yet again! :)

Great minds think alike!

Peace

[Native spirit]

I to would agree with that


Namaste

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by kris

Hence if you desire a certain outcome, you must make that outcome inevitable.

what is the point? IF everything is inevitable then so is the fact that you want to make a certain outcome inevitable. And so is the fact that you choose to talk about inevibility in this way. In other words, everything is meaningless anyway, so I don't know why I'm bothering to talk about this with you. Except I suppose that that too is inevitable.

[kris]

Originally Posted by Madhuri

I like the thought that I get to decide what’s inevitable. I think I can be trusted with that responsibility

I agree that you can be trusted with responsibility. I also said this in my previous post "But one also needs to know the laws on which the universe operates in order to choose the right action or actions to make desired outcome inevitable!"

[Madhuri]

Originally Posted by FoxTracks

My Illness has been a lesson of love and compassion. The deeper my well of pain, the more I remembered to be compassionate to others.

Living with an illness is certainly not playing life on easy mode! Seeing it as a lesson is a very admirable way to take it. You may not have a lot of choice, but it is still admirable. Real trials build character, and the evidence is in who you are. It’s harrowing work with very little social recognition for anyone who has to go through it.

As for my lessons, I repeatedly wonder if the lying/scheming I’ve seen is in some way a reflection of my inability to trust in God. I keep looking for worldly solutions, and it really highlights the gap between what I claim to believe in and what I apparently actually believe in.

I know I am also struggling with spiritual pride and self righteousness, like, “I would never do anything like that!” Okay, maybe not, but it’s irrelevant because, in New Thought, we’re supposed to see people as shifting between pre-established states of being (a “hate the sin, not the sinner” sort of deal). Or Neville Goddard’s teaching, “everyone is you pushed out,” which means it had to be me who unconsciously animated everyone in the situation and if that’s true, I could go within and fix it, if I only understood how to do it. But if he’s right, it means I did, “do anything like that” on some level and I need to knock it off with all this thinking I’m so much better.

I also feel like I’m being tested for the way I used to talk about the importance of forgiveness, how everyone is doing the best they can, and how, if this is true, we shouldn’t wish punishment on anyone. I still believe that when I can really think about it, but then I get angry and it all goes out the window, and I’m like, “yes, I’d like to order one plague of locusts, please?” I don’t mean it, and it’s not helpful, and I’m joking about it now, but at the time I’m serious and that’s an ugly thing to see in myself. I just feel like my old ways of seeing the world are failing me and I don’t know what to replace it with.

Originally Posted by Madhuri

How can I learn to have faith while I’m in a situation where I am hurting and I can’t see any way forward?

I would like to be the kind of person who really believes that God will take care of me. I thought I used to be, but I’m going through something painful and confusing right now, I don’t see any worldly way to fix any of it and it really has me shaken.

God has taken care of all of us. blessings we cannot see or notice when we are blessed.
I bless you from Jesus Christ. That you will find him from within and hear his voice in the spirit. remember very few are chosen. I am one of the chosen to hear and see Jesus in the spirit.

there has not been a single cry Jesus has not aknowledged. he knows everything about us if we seek him from within us. deep in our hearts and we shall find him.

[Miss Hepburn]

Btw, 2-3 sentences when quoting others...use the Post # if that helps.

[AtaraxiaLogic]

I'm just a crazy person, But I think there are outside forces that make me want to lose interest in everything. My BFF ruined video games for me, being highly powerful already and being bored to not play. I waste a lot of time. If it is outside forces, My remedy is to switch rooms. Or think powerfully of what I could be wanting to do. I always tell myself things could be better, things could be worse. So I try to stay positive.