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Old 15-03-2021, 12:40 AM
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The truth is everything is not already perfect, either on a societal scale or on an individual scale. A sage sees everything as perfect, but it takes the right effort to become a sage. Before “wu wei”, non-action or spontaneous nature, there is “you wei”, which literally means “there is action”. First, there is “you wei”, then there is “wu wei”. First, you perform the correct action, then you be natural and reap the benefits that action is purported to give.
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Old 16-03-2021, 08:27 PM
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everything is perfectly imperfect
free will means we can make a mess of things
but then we reap what we sow
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Old 17-03-2021, 01:20 AM
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There is no such thing as perfection outside of source.
With perfection comes stagnation and creation in about expansion.
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Old 17-03-2021, 01:29 AM
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There is no such thing as perfection outside of source.
With perfection comes stagnation and creation in about expansion.
Trick question!! What's outside of Source?
I know that a truck hitting my car in a parking lot and taking off is perfect.
No one seeing them or getting a plate ...all perfect! Ha!
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.


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Old 17-03-2021, 01:30 AM
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I see a lot of merit in seeing things as perfect to help yourslef and am planing to go that route now - but while reading about this type of way of acting i ran into people saying that everything is perfect in an actual sense

and the claim against that which always rises from people but never gets answered is : how are wars and diseases and all the suffering thats happening perfect ?

also if everything is perfect why do good deeds ?
Nothing is perfect ... Everything is on an eternal value fulfillment path (including whatever "source").
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Old 17-03-2021, 01:32 AM
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Trick question!! What's outside of Source?
Anything that is made of energy is outside of source.
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Old 17-03-2021, 03:11 AM
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Anything that is made of energy is outside of source.
Fascinating answer!
What's outside of Source ...what is not part of Source?
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Old 18-03-2021, 07:11 AM
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Far be us from perfection, not that we couldn't achieve such a thing however the reality is we're just not there yet. We aren't even masters of the earth when what we need to be are masters of the universe. We still have diseases which we know next to nothing about. We rape and pilledge the earth and take without giving back. We are way behind on climate change. etc etc etc. We're nowhere near perfect. The question is how do we attain perfection. Unity is one, loving each other and sharing global wealth is another. One tree harvested 2 trees planted is another. We'd be close to perfection if we had paradise on earth, obviously with everything being healthy and thriving. Amen
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Old 01-04-2021, 08:42 PM
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perfect is just an idea. without ideas all is as it should be
we have a presence though and seek to influence and shape what is around us
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Old 02-04-2021, 07:11 AM
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Fascinating answer!
What's outside of Source ...what is not part of Source?




To extent, as elements of source, some call it consciousness, or aether or zero point energy, extents our of source it becomes energy, and can be formed into complex structures; not from within the energy field, we call universe or multiverse but from outside, science just starts to discover.
Someone originally called it the flip-side of the universe. And this is exactly where consciousness resides. This is where creation happens, manifestation happens almost in between. More toward the physical realms, and this are the angelic realms. As I have said before, nothing happens without the involvement of the angelic.
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