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Old 22-11-2021, 11:04 PM
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"That's why I'm here next to Uluru" @ the ending of both Uncle Bob's vids.
Uncle Bob could not have said it better.
Keep posting those Uncle Bob vids. they are absolute gems.
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Old 22-11-2021, 11:12 PM
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Keep posting those Uncle Bob vids. they are absolute gems.
Well, this is the heavy heart story ….

“White Australia has a black history”

Kanyini:
https://vimeo.com/292549994

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Old 22-11-2021, 11:19 PM
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As far as Runningfox goes.I can't speak on anything Cherokee and I found many things he said odd or foriegn.
He made mighty claims of healing and that would be a great thing if can heal as he claims.
I also believe I was in agreement on many things he said.
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Old 23-11-2021, 01:08 AM
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Well, this is the heavy heart story ….

“White Australia has a black history”

Kanyini:
https://vimeo.com/292549994

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I know this kind of story, I live within it.
It is a hard one to navigate.
How to make a 'new way' from the confusion of a dominate way and a disappearing old way.
This I know, the land and sky are still here the ancestors are still here and connected-ness with Life is still possible..Helpful Spirits are still here.


Dang that sniffing petrol.
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Old 23-11-2021, 10:14 PM
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Walela (Cherokee word for Hummingbird):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XowG1z6Ag0

Maori comes to offer their respects (the way they know how):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BimhN3D84

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Karen Therese (of Chickasaw, Cherokee, Choctaw and African American descent):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTWVcsECSYQ

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Both my Saami and Karel sides had our own “trail of tears” fleeing Russia:
https://www.karjalanliitto.fi/media/evakkomatka.jpg

This was to show respect (perhaps the band members are descendants of evacuees themselves, so emotions were running high, feeling the solidarity):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgxKt2DtkJg

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Old 23-11-2021, 11:30 PM
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But when other First Nations people come to Oz, showing no respect, no solidarity to local people, only hanging with upper- and middle-class whites …. Then I am that 3-4 year old again (when I first recognized racism and discrimination) defending my ‘black-lapp’ gran … mad as hell, ready to give a knuckle sandwich …
(We have all got our wounds).

From "whites" one has come to expect that (though not accept), but not from other indigenous people.

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Old 24-11-2021, 06:18 AM
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I can't speak on anything Cherokee and I found many things he said odd or foriegn.
I can’t either. Chakras as energy centres?
Perhaps?:
https://www.massage.ca/therapy_gloss..._bodywork.html

But going back to that earlier video interview 27:39 He tells how in Oz a lot of religion is reprogrammed and attempting to contact an Elder she had asked if he had accepted Jesus Christ as his saviour.

Heh. That question was asked from me once as well.
An old Central Australian man was troubled. He sat next to me and told me that he was going to have surgery in the next few days and wanted to know if I thought the surgeon had accepted Jesus as his saviour.

I tried to assure him that these surgeries were done routinely so he would be in good hands, not to worry.
Poor bloke, he was afraid the surgeon might intentionally do him in on the operation table.
I know this fear very well. Gran never went to doctors due to fear of Nazi and Swedish race/ethnic hygiene – eugenics.

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This I know, the land and sky are still here the ancestors are still here and connected-ness with Life is still possible..Helpful Spirits are still here.
Nobody has the monopoly on land-sky.
It is just what we emphasize, I guess.

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The English word world comes from the Old English weorold (-uld), weorld, worold (-uld, -eld), a compound of wer "man" and eld "age," which thus means roughly "Age of Man."
Heard it said once:
“Wherever men unite into society, they must quit the laws of nature and assume the laws of men, so that society as a whole may prosper”.
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Old 25-11-2021, 02:44 PM
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But when other First Nations people come to Oz, showing no respect, no solidarity to local people, only hanging with upper- and middle-class whites …. Then I am that 3-4 year old again (when I first recognized racism and discrimination) defending my ‘black-lapp’ gran … mad as hell, ready to give a knuckle sandwich …
(We have all got our wounds).
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Oh yeah, the old knuckle sandwich.LOL
I find racism is pretty universal and it does burn in my Heart when I experience it and start getting out the makings of the old knuckle sandwich also,
but then the ole Heart starts devising a way to deliver a Bear hug instead...LOL..

Found this vid. and thought it was kinda on point for some recent topics.
I Am Lewis Walker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAfomq9xXc
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Old 25-11-2021, 09:55 PM
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Found this vid. and thought it was kinda on point for some recent topics.
I Am Lewis Walker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAfomq9xXc
Heh. He is tooting his own horn a bit, but he is right, those cultural camps really do work turning the troubled youth around to the “proper right way.” (Yous call it the “Red Road”).

Another one of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmJLmIYSehk
“Had a smell – smelled his presence, seeing his spirit, live and direct”.

So true, so true.
When I first went to Uluru, I went there as a tourist. Took a “bush tucker” tour with these two old Aboriginal ladies, who – after the tour sneaked up quietly behind me and literally smelled my energy field.
I sensed them, “saw” what they were doing since that was what my gran did also. Not exactly smelling, but let’s call it “scanning”.

Freedom – freedom … free-dom!!! Invisible no more! YES!!!
It is hard to live in the (white) world, where you are invisible all the time. It is so frustrating, because perceptually, it is like being held in ice or in a straitjacket when only form-reality is seen and cognized.

Actually being "seen" or wanting New Agers see you as an "Amerind or Indigenous Celebrity" are two very different things.

He also spoke of Laura festival in the Quinkan country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBHQU9UVWA

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Old 26-11-2021, 08:00 PM
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Actually being "seen" or wanting New Agers see you as an "Amerind or Indigenous Celebrity" are two very different things.
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Don’t know about now, but Nimbin and Byron Bay at least used to be the hippie/feral/alternative/weed capitals of Oz.
I do not know if that would be like Sedona in US, since I have not been in any of those places.

Would one have to be a “spiritual somebody” to be anybody there?
Wouldn’t that just be another suffocating version of form-reality straitjackets?

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