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18-11-2020, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SpiritualFreedom
The times when you didn't see your reflection, Did you actually felt the sensation of separation from the physical body into the spiritual body prior to watching your self at the mirror? or you didn't?
As a rule of thumb, If I don't feel that sensation of separation that's not a real Out of body experience to me. Neither If I can't watch myself at the mirror with my spiritual body.
There are times when you become lucid in a random environment without any sensation of seperation before becoming lucid. Those are lucid dreams. Nothing wrong with that because they like your own universe where you can do anything you want like a creator, and have fun there.
But you can get out of those by simply saying something like "Out of body now", and then, feel that sensation of separation.. to then going into the mirror of your house.
Well you're not really in your house, you're on a higher dimension of your house upon the same space location which is not the exact same realiy frame of your human mortal body
Reality is a complex multi-dimensional spectrum of layers (but maybe it could be more abstract than that. This conclusion is useful for me to understand right now, but I could be wrong with this), and we have to know the map in order to explore without getting lost & confused
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This is how I know the difference between an out of body experience and a local out of body experience, the last one happens in the local mental space, in our own intimate universe, in our own human consciousness, in our minds, while a non-local out of body experience happens at an universal level. Lucid dreams happen in this local space and are not part of the non-local space, well, they are, it's like you are in a box and the box is in the universal realm... To reach into the non-local space one has to have a higher degree of consciousness... at least this is what I've learn, not anyone can get there easily in a conscious way... It's easy to spot the difference, you either experience the part where you deatch from your physical body or you just know that you are in another dimension other than your intimate local space.
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18-11-2020, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatMan
This is how I know the difference between an out of body experience and a local out of body experience, the last one happens in the local mental space, in our own intimate universe, in our own human consciousness, in our minds, while a non-local out of body experience happens at an universal level. Lucid dreams happen in this local space and are not part of the non-local space, well, they are, it's like you are in a box and the box is in the universal realm... To reach into the non-local space one has to have a higher degree of consciousness... at least this is what I've learn, not anyone can get there easily in a conscious way... It's easy to spot the difference, you either experience the part where you deatch from your physical body or you just know that you are in another dimension other than your intimate local space.
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"Somewhere" hidden in the universe it must has to be a "map" of reality already done by a veteran higher intelligence consciousness... Explainning absolutely everything. From dimensions, to dreams, the mortal life, to parallel worlds, to virtual realities, to other intelligent species of the universe... Just everything already done & explored like a map
Why to waste our time trying to "reinvent the wheel" with our limited understanding of the whole reality there is out there. It would take us forever, so why not just gettint that map of reality without putting time/effort into exploring everything from zero?
Here is the thing, If we go to search for this map (doing an OBE) and have different answers then is not conclusive.
But if we get the same answer to the "map of reality", and it does make sense, that'd be an epic discovery
In my next Out of body here is what I'm going to try:
1 - I will go "Next Level Now", in order to move from the "Local 1". (Locale 1 is the duplicate dimension closest to the mortal physical dimension that you have if you do an OBE). Otherwise in order to go outside of planet earth with the Locale 1 spiritual body vehicle won't work, because your vision start to blurr and you snap back to your physical body which is very frustrating.
Go next level in order to travel up into the next higher dimension, called the "Locale 2". This is exactly what Robert Monroe was doing all the time.
It's very simple, you do an OBE & you're on local 1. Then you command "Next Level Now". You wait, it may take a minute so be cool about that, and then you will feel a sensation of shooting up. Simple & Effective "Next Level Now" works.
2 - I will start to command "I want to know the map of the whole reality Now", and wait for "something" to come. Maybe like a "video" will start to play on my awareness for the answer, or Maybe a spiritual being come to my signal (If you ask for your past lives, I always had a video explainning everything with a narrator voice)
3 - I will play close atenttion, and do very hard questions about it. If I can, I will debate from that source and where that information comes from
So, If people here can do the same & have the same answer we can go with that. But still I'd be sceptical about it until I test it out to know wheter or not it's true & accurate.
Later on before going into some adventure, I can go to this map & select excatly where to go instead of randomnly being throwed into places I didn't chose at all. I don't like that.
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19-11-2020, 02:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatMan
This is how I know the difference between an out of body experience and a local out of body experience, the last one happens in the local mental space, in our own intimate universe, in our own human consciousness, in our minds, while a non-local out of body experience happens at an universal level. Lucid dreams happen in this local space and are not part of the non-local space, well, they are, it's like you are in a box and the box is in the universal realm... To reach into the non-local space one has to have a higher degree of consciousness... at least this is what I've learn, not anyone can get there easily in a conscious way... It's easy to spot the difference, you either experience the part where you deatch from your physical body or you just know that you are in another dimension other than your intimate local space.
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Yes, the thread seemed to be more about local space vs universal. I'd say the same thing you did, if you look around and see objects in your room, things outside etc.. this is a mental projection of our own local space where the idea of mirrors can live. Outside that there's seemingly nothing as such.
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19-11-2020, 12:40 PM
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How OTHERS see yourself when you astral project?
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20-11-2020, 01:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 459
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Originally Posted by SpiritualFreedom
"Somewhere" hidden in the universe it must has to be a "map" of reality already done by a veteran higher intelligence consciousness... Explainning absolutely everything. From dimensions, to dreams, the mortal life, to parallel worlds, to virtual realities, to other intelligent species of the universe... Just everything already done & explored like a map
Why to waste our time trying to "reinvent the wheel" with our limited understanding of the whole reality there is out there. It would take us forever, so why not just gettint that map of reality without putting time/effort into exploring everything from zero?
Here is the thing, If we go to search for this map (doing an OBE) and have different answers then is not conclusive.
But if we get the same answer to the "map of reality", and it does make sense, that'd be an epic discovery
In my next Out of body here is what I'm going to try:
1 - I will go "Next Level Now", in order to move from the "Local 1". (Locale 1 is the duplicate dimension closest to the mortal physical dimension that you have if you do an OBE). Otherwise in order to go outside of planet earth with the Locale 1 spiritual body vehicle won't work, because your vision start to blurr and you snap back to your physical body which is very frustrating.
Go next level in order to travel up into the next higher dimension, called the "Locale 2". This is exactly what Robert Monroe was doing all the time.
It's very simple, you do an OBE & you're on local 1. Then you command "Next Level Now". You wait, it may take a minute so be cool about that, and then you will feel a sensation of shooting up. Simple & Effective "Next Level Now" works.
2 - I will start to command "I want to know the map of the whole reality Now", and wait for "something" to come. Maybe like a "video" will start to play on my awareness for the answer, or Maybe a spiritual being come to my signal (If you ask for your past lives, I always had a video explainning everything with a narrator voice)
3 - I will play close atenttion, and do very hard questions about it. If I can, I will debate from that source and where that information comes from
So, If people here can do the same & have the same answer we can go with that. But still I'd be sceptical about it until I test it out to know wheter or not it's true & accurate.
Later on before going into some adventure, I can go to this map & select excatly where to go instead of randomnly being throwed into places I didn't chose at all. I don't like that.
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This is really great SF. At some point (I hope soon), I will be able to do this. Not sure when though.
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